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Did BE really go platinum? I'd like to see a link. It was Gold last I saw...

Be did go platinum.

No it didn't it sold 800,000. There is even a reference to it

Could someone put more info about his racism?

He has been added to the category vegiterians, though speaks of eating meat (specifically chicken) on many of his albums. Where does this catorgization come from?--Ewhite77 18:36, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, he publicly endorsed vegetarianism two or three years ago, and appeared in print advertisements (or public service messages?) eating a veggie burger. - Gyrofrog (talk) 06:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
COMMON IS A VEGITERIAN OK............L8s The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.130.130.235 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 5 october, 2005 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Album covers and copyright

I'm not sure that the album cover images should be added to this article. The way that I understand fair use (at least as it applies in the United States) is that an album cover image may be used in an article about the album itself (e.g., in a critical review, or a Wikipedia article specifically about the album in question). Of course, this is not the only article where this has happened. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] some places need npov?

I'm not sure that "trappings" is the right word to describe the *themes* that Common's work does or does not address.

I think the use of "trappings" is fine. Per the New Oxford Dictionary: trappings |ˈtrapi ng z| -the outward signs, features, or objects associated with a particular situation, role, or thing. --Ewhite77 14:31, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
"lyrics that focus more on love and spirituality, and less on the usual hip hop trappings of money, power, and women."

My issue is the fact that we assume "money, power, and women" are the usual hip-hop trappings. Mainstream, dance hip-hop music, maybe, but hip-hop music on the whole -- when you take into account the countless underground heads, jazz hip-hop, old school hip-hop, alternative hip-hop, you see that the usage of the term "the usual" is a little misleading. Let's not look through the hate-colored glasses the media and ignorant outside critiques have placed in front of our eyes. A little objectivity, please. Richard Corey 14:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget about organic hip-hop.

I took out this part:

", and less on the usual hip hop trappings of money, power, and women"

because it was not really necessary anway. If anyone feels it really needs to be in there, it's still here for re-copying and pasting. But I'm sure we can agree that this is a little POVish. Richard Corey 14:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] see also

someone added like 20 items to the see also section! we will want to cut this down drastically.. - Stoph 22:14, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] AIDS Activist

I think that Common's work as an AIDS activist should be mentioned as well.

[edit] Racism quote

Did Common really say "I oppose dreadlocked black men getting into mixed relations because it defeats the purpose of the lock' purpose"? Perhaps we should add [sic]. Tim Ivorson 2006-06-07

I removed the section for now. It wasn't contributing anything at the time I removed. FWIW, I don't think this implies racism. He doesn't say "I oppose interracial marriages," only that it goes against his dread philosophy. If nothing else, this is a much smaller issue that the Ice Cube beef, which isn't mentioned right now (I'm too busy to add this very minute... was just browsing through). Citations of people accusing him of racism would be helpful, not just a mention of some song by guys who took it personal. miklo68 2006-07-10


No, Tim, he did not. That was a gross misquote. Here is the actual article, and the quote. http://www.touchmagazine.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=448 . "When you see dreadlocked dudes with white girls that’s like they going against what the dreadlock’s purpose was."HæSúsê 2006-08-16

I like Common, but if you look at the lyrics to 'Real People': Black men walking wit white girls on they arms I be mad at em as if I know they moms. I hardly think he's racist though...--NPswimdude500 03:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it's more anti-miscegenatist not racist. Waynepl107 12:36, 31st August 2006 (EST)

He say that he was told to go beyond the serface, and that a persons a person, but he uses this quote against white people. I dont nessecarily believe that common is a racist but he should think about the way he words things.(nmandala47)

[edit] History Section, Paragraph 2

Quoting the previous article:

"The song "I Used to Love H.E.R." sparked a feud with West Coast rapper Ice Cube. The lyrics of the song criticized the path hip-hop music was taking, including the popularity of West Coast G-Funk rap. Ice Cube and Common dissed each other back and forth, finally meeting with Louis Farrakhan and setting aside their dispute. Following the popularity of this album, Common Sense was sued by a ska band with the same name, and was forced to change his moniker to simply "Common"."

This paragraph has a line "following the popularity of this album", but never qualifies which album "this album, is. I took the liberty of adding a line to the first sentence, that clarifies that "I Used to Love H.E.R." is off of the album Ressurection. HaeSuse - 2006-06-13

I would also like to point out the many refferances that artist Talib Kweli makes to the album "Ressurection", though if i'm not mistaken he never appears on it. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[edit] Instruments?

I removed the Instruments part, its obvious why —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Samil20 (talkcontribs) 2006-07-21.

[edit] Other tracks

I removed the other tracks section because it needs serious work and includes many factual errors.--NPswimdude500 03:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Freestyle (feat. Prince) - Live @ The Metro; Chicago IL 11/22/00
  • Soul By The Pound (Thump Remix)
  • Tekzilla
  • Confusion (with Just Ro)
  • Slam Pit (with The Beatnuts)
  • Interview (featuring Joe Clair and DJ Love)
  • Fresh Rhymes (featuring J.U.I.C.E. & O-Type Star)
  • High Expectations
  • Lately I've Been Thinking (featuring Sean Lett)
  • Freestyle (featuring. Funkmaster Flex)
  • The Remedy (featuring A Tribe Called Quest)
  • Freestyle (featuring. DJ Honda)
  • Reminding Me Of Sef (Roots Remix)
  • Like They Used To Say
  • Sun God (featuring Hi-Tek)
  • Divide & Conquer
  • Can-I-Bus (featuring Y-Not)
  • The Bitch In Yoo (Ice Cube Dis)
  • State To State (featuring No I.D. & Dug Infinite)
  • Da Bizness (featuring De La Soul)
  • Resurrection (Large Professor Remix)
  • 8 Minutes To Sunrise (featuring Jill Scott)
  • A Better Tommorrow (featuring Brand Nubian)
  • Car Horn
  • Play Dis (98' Version) (featuring Saukrates)
  • U.N.I. Verse All (featuring The Roots)
  • A For Effort
  • The Light (featuring Prince) Live @ The Metro Chicago, Il, 11/22/00
  • Intro (Be Yourself)
  • Resurrection (Extra P Remix)
  • The Jam (featuring Alliance Ethnik & Rahzel)
  • Embrace The Chaos (featuring Ozomatli)
  • Out For The Cash (Original Version) feat. DJ Honda, The Beatnuts, Al Tariq, Fat Joe & Problemz
  • Life Goes On (featuring Kid Capri, AZ, Allure & Case) [UNRELEASED]
  • 89.9-WKCR Radio Freestyle (with Stretch Armstrong & Bobbito)
  • Mic Set (featuring The Immigrants) [UNRELEASED]
  • In The Sun (featuring Shaquille O'Neal & Black Thought) [UNRELEASED]
  • Act Too (The Love Of My Life) (featuring The Roots)
  • Play Dis ('99 Remix) (featuring Saukrates)
  • One For Love feat. Talib Kweli, Kool G Rap, Rah Digga, Mos Def, Sporty Thievz, Shabaam Sahdeeq, Pharoahe Monch, Posdonuos
  • Money For Doe feat. O-Type Star [UNRELEASED]
  • Who Stole The Clippers? [UNRELEASED, EARLY 90's DEMO]
  • 88.5-WHPK Radio Freestyle (with Masta Ace)
  • The Truth (featuring Pharoahe Monch & Talib Kweli)
  • Don't Come My Way (featuring Slick Rick)
  • 1-9-9-9 (Duro Remix) (featuring Sadat X) [UNRELEASED]
  • UnAmerican Caravan (featuring Y-Not) [UNRELEASED, EARLY 90's DEMO]
  • The Bitch In Yoo (Alternate Lyrics) [UNRELEASED]
  • 88.5-WHPK Battle: Common vs. Kanye West ('96)
  • Funk Sh*t (featuring Marley Marl)
  • Jesus Walks Remix (featuring Kanye West)
  • Respiration (with Black Star)
  • While I'm Dancin' (featuring Payme)
  • Cryogenic (Refreshed Rhymes) (featuring Cyphernauts) [UNRELEASED]
  • The Corner Remix (featuring Scarface & Mos Def)
  • The Struggle Continues (featuring Talib Kweli & David Banner)
  • Why Remix (with Styles P, Jadakiss & Nas)
  • 1-9-9-9 feat. Sadat X
  • The Train [Unreleased Demo]
  • She Wants More (with N-E-R-D, Mos Def, De La Soul & Q-Tip) (Native Tongue Remix)
  • Real Compared To What (with Mya)
  • Better Than Yours feat. Kanye West
  • Yelling Away feat. Zap Mama, Talib Kweli & ?uestlove
  • Come Closer Remix (Closer) feat. Erykah Badu, Pharrell & Q-Tip
  • Days Of Our Lives feat. De La Soul
  • Enough Beef feat. Royce Da 5'9" & Chino XL
  • Claimin' Respect #2 feat. Edo G & Masta Ace (Coulevard Connection)
  • Verbal Murder 2 feat. Pete Rock, Big Punisher & Noreaga
  • Ghetto Show feat. Talib Kweli & Anthony Hamilton
  • Any Given Sunday fea. Jamie Foxx & Guru
  • Freestyle Song feat. KRS-One
  • Wack N*ggas feat. Consequence, Kanye West & Talib Kweli
  • I Used To Love H.E.R. (Molemen Remix) Prod. By Panik
  • Erykah Badu & Common - The Light (Remix)
  • Erykah Badu & Common - Love of my Life
  • Kanye West - Get Em High (Feat Talib Kweli And Common)
  • Mary J Blige - Dance for Me (feat. Common)
  • Bilal - Reminisce (feat. Common & Mos Def)
  • Kanye West, Common, JV, and Malik Yusef - Wouldn't you like to Ride
  • Armand van Helden feat. Common - Full Moon
  • Brand Nubian - Maybe One Day (Feat. Common)
  • Femi Kuti - Missing Link (feat. Common)
  • Syleena Johnson - Bulls-Eye (Suddenly) Ft. Common
  • De La Soul - Bitch in Yoo (feat. Common) (Live At Tramps NYC 1996)
  • De La Soul - Biznes (feat. Common) (Live At Tramps NYC 1996)
  • Last Poets, Dead Prez & Common - Panthers
  • The Food (w/ Kanye West) (Studio Version)
  • Real People (Studio Version)
  • Faith Evans – Again (Remix) feat. Common & Ghostface Killah
  • Kanye West - My Way Home (Feat. Common)
  • Fort Minor - Back Home (feat. Common and Styles Of Beyond)
  • Jamie Joxxx - U Still Got It (Interlude) (Feat. Common)
  • Kanye West - We Can Make It Better (Feat. Talib Kweli, Rhymefest, Q-Tip and Common)
  • Kanye West - Back To The Basics (Feat. Common)
  • Common - The Movement
  • Floetry - Superstar feat. Common
  • Car Horn (Madlib Remix)
  • Ghetto Heaven [Remix] (feat. Macy Gray)
  • No Competition
  • Faithful (Live Sessions@AOL)
  • GO! (Live Sessions@AOL)
  • Testify (Live Sessions@AOL)
  • The League Freestyle 2003 (Mick Boogie remix)
  • Hip-Hop 101 (LIVE in Concert)
  • Act Too (LIVE on MTV)
  • 6th Sense (LIVE in Germany)
  • Come Close Part 3 feat. Phife Dawg (Mick Boogie remix)
  • So Cool
  • Jay Dee - E=MC² (feat. Common)
  • Jay Dee - So Far So Good (feat. Common & D'Angelo)
  • Common Feat. Erykah Badu - The Light (Dave Chappelle's Block Party)
  • Hi-Tek - Music For Life (Ft. J Dilla, Nas, Common, Busta Rhymes & Marsha Of Floetry)
  • Busta Rhymes - Midwest Shit feat. Twista & Common
  • Common - I Have A Dream (Produced by will.i.am)
  • T.I. - Goodlife (ft. Pharrell & Common)
  • Common - Holiday in Your Hood (Gap 2006 TV Commercial)
  • Omar - Gimme SUM (Vocal Version) [Feat. Common, Rodney P, Cantibe & Ashman]
  • Omar - Gimme SUM (RAP Version) [Feat. Common, Rodney P, Cantibe & Ashman]
  • Papoose feat Common - Rebel muzik
  • Big Daddy Kane Tribute (BDK, Common, TI, The Roots)
  • Absolute, Black Thought, Bobbito, Common & Pharoahe Monch - Live from the D.J. Stretch Arm

[edit] High School

What high school(s) did he attend?