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It seems unclear whether it should be "Harland" or "Harlan".

It is "Harland", but most of the time, when it was pronounced,

the "D" was silent. Rogerd 03:42, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Rogerd is correct...If you REALLY want to verify this, enter Sanders' first and last name here, in the social security death index: http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/4.247.143.203 02:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)Deej

The pictures seem redundant. I say we replace one of them with an actual portrait of him. --BDD 16:49, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

looks like the first one was used in the KFC article. what say we put the portrait in its place?

well i think that's a great idea so why don't we go ahead , STYLE MEIN RENAE HAI KYA

Contents 1 Drunk quote 2 Didn't he become Vegetarian before his death, renouncing his former career? 3 Didn't he die poor? 4 Was he a Real Colonel? 5 Page move 6 Sounds like an advertisment 7 Born-again Christian 8 Nightmares 9 Not really an advertisement 10 11 Herbs and Spices? 11 Sanders and Dave Thomas 12 Disambiguation? 13 This Article should be expanded 14 Trivia 15 What's My Line? 16 Article 17 Dead? 18 Trivia section 19 Confusing 20 Here Here 21 Name 22 possible copyright infringement - Path to global recognition 23 Non-Commercial Tv appearances? 24 Inspirational? 25 Claudia Sanders link

[edit] Drunk quote

I've heard a quote attributed to him: "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken." Is there any truth to this?

[edit] Didn't he become Vegetarian before his death, renouncing his former career?

[edit] Didn't he die poor?

I heard he died with almost no money. The company which bought his franchise got most of the money from him.

[edit] Was he a Real Colonel?

Was he a real Colonel? I read he served in the Navy, which has no rank of Colonel.

He's a "Kentucky colonel", an honor bestowed by the Kentucky Governor, if I remember correctly. Not dissimilar to a knight in England. — Stevie is the man! ^{Talk | Work} 01:53, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think this interesting aspect of his name should be elaborated on in the article Ewlyahoocom 19:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

So he's a Colonel like the music business Colonel?. Im shocked, i really thought he was a colonel!

[edit] Page move

I moved the article to Colonel Sanders from Harland Sanders, as the name by which Sanders is commonly known. - Vague |

[edit] Sounds like an advertisment

Hate to say this, but most of the article sounds like an advert on how great the man was, something like an official biography would say. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.111.85 (talk • contribs) 16:07, April 28, 2005.

But it's about an American! It HAS to be aggrandized! -Barcode711 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.210.16.76 (talk) 04:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Born-again Christian

The following was just added by an anonymous contributor:

Shortly before his death, Sanders became a born-again Christian; after attending a McDuff Brothers gospel concert.

Pending a source for this, I've taken it out of the article. — Stevie is the man! ^{Talk | Work} 04:13, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nightmares

Colonel Sanders scared me when I was a little girl. I used to have nightmares about him. I called him "the hotman" back then. It was way scary. User talk:Angie Y. 02:15, Jul 01, 2005 (UTC)

funny, when I was a kid I thoght he was a headless monster(cause how the icon of him looks).

[edit] Not really an advertisement

This is just the little life story thing taken from KFC.com and reworded a little, no wonder it's just making out that he's and "all american hero"

[edit] 11 Herbs and Spices?

There is little doubt that Sander's chicken had the 11 herbs and spices. But according to a book titled Big Secrets, an analysis was done and it is believed they're no longer (all) in there, some of them replaced with MSG.

Actually, the book says the only spices in the breading in the mid-80s (when it was writteN) were black pepper, salt, sugar (!) and MSG. --Jfruh (talk) 12:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sanders and Dave Thomas

64.123.238.45 (talk • contribs) added the following, which I reverted:

after being sold to Dave Thomas, and re-sold back to Mr. Sanders for over a million dollars in which Mr. Thomas used to start his Wendys franchise which became even bigger then KFC.

According to Wendy's web site [1], Thomas at one point owned four franchises in the Columbus, Ohio area, certainly not the entire chain, which would have been worth much more than a million dollars. --Rogerd 02:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation?

A search for "Sanders" leads directly to this page. Granted Colonel Sanders might be the most famous bearer of the surname, but there are other notable people who share it as well. IMO a disambiguation page would be preferable. 69.196.138.93 22:24, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] This Article should be expanded

This article is in need of attention and needs to be expanded. For Pete's sake, he only founded one of the world's largest franchises, and is an international cult figure! Эйрон Кинни 00:39, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

The biography by John Pearce contains a lot of information. I don't have time to work on it tonight, so feel free to look up the book and beat me to it :-) Rbean 06:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

• In Japan, the Colonel is known as "Mister Fried Chicken" and often has a Japanese face with the Colonel's trademark glasses, suit, and beard.

Pending a verifiable source, this has been removed. Considering that I have lived in Japan for years and never heard anything remotely like this, I doubt a verifiable source can be found. The closest I've heard is the nickname "Colonel ojisan" ('ojisan' approx. means middle-aged gentleman).

• in tenacious d's 2006 tour, Sanders appeared in hell, because of him killing so many chickens, and he got recruited as the drummer for the band

i went to the new york concert on friday and saw it

[edit] What's My Line?

I added trivia that the Colonel appeared on the game show What's My Line. I left out this quote from after his job was revealed that shows his determination to promote his product: "You never heard of finger-lickin' good Kentucky Fried Chicken? Kentucky Fried Chicken is different than ordinary fried chicken. There's eleven different spices and herbs and a patented method of frying. We have over 900 outlets, all the way from Honolulu to Black Pool in London and Manchester England, all across the continent, all selling... And wherever you see a picture of this mug of mine, you know you're going to get good food -- at least good chicken!"

If anyone thinks it belongs somewhere, feel free to use it TheHYPO 04:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

It's either misquoted, or the Colonel didn't know his British geography - Blackpool is in North West England, and is nowhere near London ;-) AdorableRuffian 19:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article

Guys the section on trivia is longer than the rest about him. That's a little sad on the main page, I recommend that the article be broken off. Called like Colonel Sanders in pop culture or something and leave a redirct from the main page something like {{ Main| Colonel Sanders in pop culture }} I'll do it if no one else will. Outside Center 17:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dead?

Who was the person that came on Big Brother if Colonel Sanders is dead?

An impersonator. FireSpike 19:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia section

Per WP:AVTRIV, I propose that we delete the trivia section, or severely pare it down. --rogerd 19:29, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think that this section really is largely cultural references to Colonel Sanders. I think much of this material could go into its own article. I say this because Col. Sanders is a significant cultural icon, and thus a subarticle on a subject like this isn't out of the question. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 15:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I moved it to a separate article, which was subsequently deleted because it was deemed unencyclopedic. Please do not re-insert this cruft back into the main article. --rogerd 21:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing

He appeared in many of his company's television commercials between the 1950s and 1970s (with his and KFC's slogan "Finger-lickin' good"), and remained outspoken about the quality of the KFC product, often with a lively vocabulary. In 1975 a libel lawsuit was filed against Harland Sanders by Kentucky Fried Chicken for his comments, including calling the gravy "sludge" and the mashed potatos "wallpaper paste". The suit was unsuccessful, and he continued to speak out when he felt the quality of the business he founded waned.

This isn't particular clear and is a bit confusing. At first it sounds like he supportive of the (high) quality of KFC throughout his life but it becomes clear that at some stage he began to feel the quality had waned and spoke out against it. It's not particularly clear when this occured (although we can assume it was after 1970 and before 1975 and whether he remained opposed to it to the end of his life (which wasn't much longer after 75 of course). Nil Einne 08:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Here Here

Here here I agree absolutely. He is such a hero he has done so much for the world thank you Mr. Sanders thank you.

[edit] Name

Since the man's name was Harland Sanders, I suggest that the title of the article be changed accordingly, and that Colonel Sanders be redirected there. Fishhead64 20:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it was renamed to this last year [2], but I think you are right. Articles about people with military titles (i.e. Mark Clark, William Westmoreland, John Pershing, T. Michael Moseley, Ronald Keys) are titled by the name only. Some will argue that in this case Colonel is not a military title (and it isn't), and that is what he was known by. I would say that the people I listed are usually known as General X, also. --rogerd 22:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

It seems to have been moved without discussion. Unless there is widespread objection, I will move it back to his actual name, per wikipedia practice (as you noted). Fishhead64 16:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] possible copyright infringement - Path to global recognition

This section is the exact replica of the history of KFC written on walls of various KFC restaurants here in the Philippines. I just ate at KFC - Rockwell Mall last night and read this word-per-word statement! KathzzZz^{cHat | siGn heRe} 03:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Non-Commercial Tv appearances?

Ther was an episode of "Little House on the Prairie" Where Nellie's Restaurant gets converted to a fast food joint where they only have three different meals.

At the end of the episode, a person who looks like Col. Sanders rolls up in a wagon and pitches the idea of a restaurant that only serves fried chicken. I've always wondered if that really was Col. Sanders of it he was an impersonator. I don't remember when the episode aired. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bizzybody (talk • contribs) 05:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Inspirational?

I often hear the story of Colonel Sanders being turned down 1009 times before selling his recipe (while driving across the country, sleeping in his car!). Could anyone verify this statement?

[edit] Claudia Sanders link

I removed a link to Claudia Sanders Dinner House, a restaurant that Col Sanders sold to some other company some time back. The link doesn't seem relevant to this biographical article or appropriate per WP:EL. Someone restored the link without explanation so I took it out again. If someone wants to reinsert it could they please explain the reasons here. 64.160.39.153 19:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)