Talk:College of Cardinals
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Is the presentation of this list copied from catholic-pages.com? It sure looks like their list.--L.E./12.144.5.2/le@put.com
[edit] Wikipedia's list of notable cardinals does exist
Why is someone putting this extensive list of links to articles about cardinals without adding them to the list of notable cardinals? "Notable" in this context seems to be construed as meaning "the subject of a Wikipedia article". I've found within the last few minutes that some of the cardinals listed here who do have Wikipedia articles about them are not on that list. Michael Hardy 20:21, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Cardinal in pectore
pope died, but In 2003 the Pope announced he was also creating one cardinal secretly (in pectore), which would have taken effect if the appointment had been announced before the Pope's death. This prelate is believed to reside in the People's Republic of China. who is him? --????
- The point of "in pectore" is that it's secret. No one apart from the pope who named him and himself knows who it was. Cardinal in pectore means cardinal in the pope's heart, don't enjoy the privileges etc. of a normal cardinal. The only thing is if a cardinal in pectore were later to become a full cardinal, his seniority (time as a cardinal) would start counting from when he was named as a cardinal in pectore. On a related note, the rumour about being in China's was I think referring to the Archbishop of Hong Kong. -- KTC 21:35, Apr 3 2005 (UTC)
[edit] What has happened?
Is it just me - or has this page changed dramatically. It used to list the currently alive cardinals - now it seems to list the whole lot created since the time of Paul VI. Personally I preferred the currently alive cardinals, those being over 80 and therefore non-voting in a conclave duly asterisked. If there is need to mention other cardinals they should be in articles about the individual or about the diocese or dicastery or curial office to which they belong. It is my hope that someone will tidy this up and revert it to the alive cardinals again. My belief is that the College of Cardinals is a living organ of the Church and should only contain the living members of the College. Kiddo54 04:19, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The idea of the College being a "living organ" of the Church is more in the realm of devoitional theology than an encyclopedia article. However, I agree with Kiddo on different grounds: it is defensible to either list only current cardinals (as this is a reference 'book") or ALL cardinals in history for the sake of completeness (this is impossible, as it wopuld require vast amounts of space for little benefit, and one can link to other sites that do have this information, or something close to it). Listing all cardinals appointed in -- what? the lifetime of a particular contributor? -- doesn't make any logical sense. Let's reduce this to the current members, with an asterisk for non-voters, as suggested.HarvardOxon 04:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
