Talk:College Football Hall of Fame
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[edit] Numbers aren't adding up
I compiled the data on the three pages listing current Hall of Fame enshrinees to pull together some summary numbers that are currently listed under "By the numbers," but that data conflicts with the press release from the NFF announcing this year's class:
- Only 796 players and 170 coaches have been inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame from the more than 4.4 million who have played the game over the past 138 years.
Add this to the 13 players and 2 coaches inducted in 2006, and you get different numbers than what's currently listed (809 players and 174 coaches). Where did we get the data currently on these articles from, and is there any way to verify it for completeness without going through the Hall of Fame's search page?
--PSUMark2006 talk | contribs 06:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- I just checked the search page, which lists a total of 973 results - which further confuses things because that number doesn't jive with the 981 referred to in the press release or our list of 983. --PSUMark2006 talk | contribs 06:40, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- There are 174 coaches listed on the coach page, so it's in the players. We could provide a link in the list to the CHOF website to each bio. Then, when someone doesn't have a bio we'll known which ones. I realize it's a lot of work, but both we'll be more accurate & the list will provide more information. --MECU≈talk 13:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- That's a good idea. We should also add links to the individual WP player/coach pages as well - what would be the best way to standardize that? Add it as an option for the players'/coaches' infoboxes? --PSUMark2006 talk | contribs 17:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- The {{NFL player}} (which most player article use probably, I don't know of a college player infobox) already has fields for the CHOF (and pro HOF) with links to the HOF. (I actually put that in on the NFL box). But the {{College coach infobox}} does not. It has a HOF field, but it's just for the year they were inducted and not to link it to the HOF bio. I think it should be reasonable to add this as a link next to that data, or change it so it doesn't link to the Wikipedia CHOF page but to the bio. I'll start a conversation there about this. In the meanwhile, we certainly can begin adding the bio link. Do we want to add another column to the tables, or just link the year perhaps? I'm up for either way. --MECU≈talk 18:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think that linking to the year might make the most sense if only because if we add a new column, every single row will say the exact same thing - having consistent link text in each of the infoboxes makes sense but if it's in a table it'll just look redundant and cluttered at first glance. --PSUMark2006 talk | contribs 19:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- I found one. John McKay was listed under the players, but he was inducted as a coach. This is probably where our errors are. So you can't just see if they exist, but you have look at what position they were inducted as. --MECU≈talk 16:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think that linking to the year might make the most sense if only because if we add a new column, every single row will say the exact same thing - having consistent link text in each of the infoboxes makes sense but if it's in a table it'll just look redundant and cluttered at first glance. --PSUMark2006 talk | contribs 19:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- The {{NFL player}} (which most player article use probably, I don't know of a college player infobox) already has fields for the CHOF (and pro HOF) with links to the HOF. (I actually put that in on the NFL box). But the {{College coach infobox}} does not. It has a HOF field, but it's just for the year they were inducted and not to link it to the HOF bio. I think it should be reasonable to add this as a link next to that data, or change it so it doesn't link to the Wikipedia CHOF page but to the bio. I'll start a conversation there about this. In the meanwhile, we certainly can begin adding the bio link. Do we want to add another column to the tables, or just link the year perhaps? I'm up for either way. --MECU≈talk 18:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- That's a good idea. We should also add links to the individual WP player/coach pages as well - what would be the best way to standardize that? Add it as an option for the players'/coaches' infoboxes? --PSUMark2006 talk | contribs 17:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- There are 174 coaches listed on the coach page, so it's in the players. We could provide a link in the list to the CHOF website to each bio. Then, when someone doesn't have a bio we'll known which ones. I realize it's a lot of work, but both we'll be more accurate & the list will provide more information. --MECU≈talk 13:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I have added the field CollegeHOFID to Template:College coach infobox (talk, links, edit). In that field should be the ID from the CFB HOF website. I've added the field to a couple articles already including Barry Switzer, Woody Hayes, Knute Rockne, Hayden Fry and some others. I wanted to keep the wikilink to the College Football Hall of Fame article and preferably the year in sports article so right now the link to the CFB HOF website is a space ( ) with the external link arrow. Let me know if you feel this should be changed. I've also noticed that Bobby Bowden is listed as a 2006 inductee but he is not on the HOF website and Joe Paterno is down as a 2007 inductee. I left those alone but we may consider removing those until they are reflected on the HOF website.--NMajdan•talk 15:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
