User talk:Cocopuffberman

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[edit] Jack Berman

Hey there. Just wanted to let you know that I've done a rewrite on the Jack Berman article, to put in some more Wiki-style formatting, and to try and bring out the notability of the subject, from a neutral perspective. I hope you're okay with the way I put it together. Don't be too upset if it winds up being deleted, though - Wikipedia's got some very strict rules about notability and inclusion in the encyclopedia. Cheers. Tony Fox 04:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel the way you do. I realize it's something you feel strongly about as it was your father and he died tragically when you were very young.

We do, however, have guidelines for who merits Wikipedia articles and who doesn't ... see WP:BIO. Those are based on what someone did in their lifetime, not how they died (A college friend of mine died in this horror, for instance, and a scholarship is named after her in her hometown. But she wouldn't merit a separate article and I wouldn't dream of starting one.

My suggestion to you ... can you remake the article into one about the 101 California Street shootings, and include biographical sketches of all the victims? You might not be able to include as much about your father as you have already, but it would be the best way to remember him and make Wikipedia a better, more thorough encyclopedia.

If you do that, I would strongly consider withdrawing the deletion nomination (which would end the discussion) and I will say so there.

(BTW, just so you know, I have done, and continue to do a lot here on Wikipedia besides review new articles for deletion. I'm sorry that rubbed you the wrong way. I tried to be gentle in the deletion nomination, because it was obvious to me that it was written by someone who cared about its subject very deeply. Other people have put up memorial pages; it's never fun for any of us when we have to tell them this isn't the place for it. Once again, I'm very sorry for upsetting you). Daniel Case 05:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


Don't worry at all. I like what you're doing and I see from your newly-created user page that you're understanding what Wikipedia is all about. I look forward to more contributions from you.

If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask. Daniel Case 01:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey - thought I'd drop a note and say 'good start' on the 101 California Street Shootings article, and to maybe give a bit of feedback so you can work on improving it (call it a learning experience, I suppose). First off, I'd suggest changing it to follow the standard Wikipedia article style, with a short introduction that summarizes the article, then goes into the detail. You might want to break it down after that with a section describing the shootings (there should be lots of info in the newspaper articles you linked to for building this), then a section on the victims, and finally a section on 'reaction' or something similar where you can discuss the legal action that took place afterwards. Good job so far, and I hope you can keep filling it in. Cheers! Tony Fox 19:18, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cocopuffberman/gallery/yosemite

What is this page actually about? Because it's in main namepsace and I don't think it should be. Surely it should be located at User:Cocopuffberman/gallery/yosemite? -- Francs2000 17:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

The same with Cocopuffberman/gallery/maui, you may want to page move it to User:Cocopuffberman/gallery/maui--blue520 17:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)