Talk:Coat of arms of Kiev

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[edit] All UA CoA's are PD

This page needs some images, like this one http://heraldry.com.ua/index.php3?lang=U&context=info&id=17#verh.

I noticed the coa are identical with the one from heraldry.com.ua, does that mean all images there are PD, if so it would be a great place to raid for coa to use for subdivisions of Ukraine.

ditto for the flag http://heraldry.com.ua/index.php3?lang=U&context=info&id=479#verh (unsigned)

I think herladics is PD anyway, so go ahead or I could do it myself. I moved the article to ...KiEv... for the reasons explained at talk:Kiev and changed the text accordingly. If anyone moves it back, I will not jump to revert. But if anyone feels like doing that, please take some time to explain and DO read the discussion at talk:Kiev first. -Irpen 02:41, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

See template:PD-UA-exempt

[edit] Disputed: Kiev Coat of Arms at the time of Imperial Russia

Cross posted from talk:kiev

This image should be removed as someone's modern fantasy. As best I know, the current coat of arms is exactly the same as was used during Catherine the Great's reign. It is featured in Catherine's Gerbovnik as part of coats of arms of different noble families descended from Rurik, e.g., Baryatinsky, Volkonsky, Repnin, etc. --Ghirlandajo 7 July 2005 08:19 (UTC)

Feel free to modify if you are sure the CoA is wrong and see whether anyone will claim you're wrong. I won't. As for the history of this image, I got it from ( http://www.heraldry.com.ua/index.php3?lang=E&context=info&id=476#verh ). Maybe they didn't know what they were writing about. --Irpen July 7, 2005 17:12 (UTC)

AFAIK, Ghirla is correct. No image of Kiev COA from Catherine's time has been recovered so far. All drawings of the COA (including the one in the article) are made in our days based on the description [1]. KPbIC 07:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)