User talk:Cmyk

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You like in JE?Which area?Tan DX 10:30, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citing references and how to

Hiya. This is a bit late, but oh well. I saw your question on Talk:The Arnolfini Portrait asking how to cite books. There are a number of ways, and any one of them is good. If one falls out of fashion, it will get fixed by someone for you in the end :) You could:

Like in Harvard referencing, stick the author name and year of publication in brackets after the comment, and then create a References subsection towards the bottom of the article with the full details. So

  • "...and instead feels that it is a betrothal (Hall, 1994)." in the main body; and
  • "Hall, E 1994 The Arnolfini betrothal: medieval marriage and the enigma of Van Eyck's double portrait University of California Press, Berkeley. " in a references section.

I like this method, but in general, Wikipedians don't seem to use Harvard referencing.

Use the footnoting system as described by User:Solipsist on the talk page you asked on.

Use the m:Cite.php system which is fairly new but gaining in popularity. I find it is much easier to find an example and copy it than to work through the explanation on the page I linked to! Generally, you put <ref>Footnote goes here, you can use normal markup for italics or bold and internal or external links if you want</ref> And then in a separate references subsection, you put <references/> inside. Once. Doesn't matter how many references you have made. Wikipedia figures the rest out for you. So it might be something like

  • "...and instead feels that it is a betrothal. <ref>Chapter X of The Arnolfini Betrothal: Medieval Marriage and the Enigma of Van Eyck's Double Portrait, Edwin Hall, 1994, published by University of California Press. ISBN 0520212215</ref> " in the main body; and
  • "<references/> in a references section.

Both the footnoting and the cite.php system come out looking much the same, with footnotes in the text and a list of them all in the reference section at the bottom. The big reason that Cite.php is winning at the moment is that you can have multiple references to the same source done, and the footnote system can't. So even though it looks complicated, if you want numbered notes, I'd strongly consider Cite.php first. But don't mix multiple systems in one article. Wikipedia isn't that clever, and you can end up with parallel sets of footnote numbers :)

Hope all this helps!

Telsa (talk) 09:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)