Talk:Cluny Abbey
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"This act of foundation also started the Order of Cluny. " This statement is in error. --Wetman 02:27, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
- You should remove anything you know to be false. I just translated the thing without fact checking. BrianSmithson 02:57, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
- I was too rash. Not false. More misleading: if someone tried to build an article Order of Cluny that was separate from Abbey of Cluny, they'd soon be in a tangle. All Cluniac houses were priories dependent on the abbey. The rule was a revision of Benedict's rule, but the "Cluniac order" is a phrase too easily cast about that leads to non-historical expectations. --Wetman 03:25, 10 August 2005 (UTC).
- Cluniac nunneries: Can someone provide some details, with a less anachronistic assessment than the present text: "Partly due to the order's opulence the Cluniac nunneries were not seen as being particularly cost-effective which may also reflected in the order's apparent lack of interest in founding many new houses for women." I know nothing of the Cluniac nunneries. Governed by prioresses? --Wetman 22:21, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
--- Is there a list of abbots anywhere that we could use? Adam Bishop 00:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] organization
The last paragraph of the section on 'organization' begins with a run-on sentence and makes little sense. I paste it here:
The customs of Cluny also represented a shift from the earlier ideal of a Benedictine monastery as an agriculturally self-sufficient unit similar to the contemporary villa that survived in the more Romanized parts of Europe and the manor of more feudal parts, in which each member did physical labor as well as offering prayer.
Please, someone with resources or knowledge about Cluny, clarify this.
Whoistheroach 21:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Possible merger
There are two distinct articles. The second and shorter one, which was apparently recently vandalized, is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluniac_reforms. It should be considered and merged into the larger article.
DeVeritate 05:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
