Talk:Clube Atlético Mineiro
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[edit] Remove the quote about the largest number of fans
I will remove the quote about "the largest number of fans in the state" from this article based on the discussion in Cruzeiro article, because two other surveys from Vox Popoli and Ibope shows that Cruzeiro have the largest number of fans. So, we can't be sure of those data and this is a encyclopedia and not a fan site.
the discrussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cruzeiro_Esporte_Clube
UPDATE:
I do not want to sound annoying, but people still seem to be adding this information about Atlético's fanbase. Sorry, but if the supporters desire a trustful reference for Atlético Mineiro, these people have to point references on any numbers shown, or else it may seem that the article writers are just guessing statistics out or, like stated above, adding biased contributions, which must not in any case happen in any kind of encyclopedia. We don't want Atlético's supporters to look bad to the entire world, do we?
I would thoroughly like to recommend for users who really feel it necessary to state this sort of information without pointing reliable sources to do so in websites like Orkut.com or Galoucura.com.br, or just shouting it loud in Governador Magalhães Pinto Stadium, leaving Wikipedia to those who are looking for precise info and not an ultra site. Cheers, Cheiro de lysoform 02:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Since we can not reach a consensus, I suggest that we just ommit this information. It is rather irrelevant as the amount of fans do not interfere with the quality of the club's football. As long as we do not have any agreement, I think that the accuracy of this article is really being disputed.Cheiro de lysoform 00:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. Go ahead and remove this information. Carioca 00:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry but it is a fact that Cruzeiro has the largest fanbase in Minas Gerais. MANY surveys from MANY different people have been done and the results never change. Atletico having the biggest fanbase in Minas or being "traditionally known as the most popular club in Minas Gerais" (as you put it)should not be mentioned at all in this article because that statement is factually incorrect. And it should be also noted that in 1981 there was a challenge issued from both organizations to see which of the two teams could get the most fans into a derby match that year (a match that went down in history as " o clássico dos ingressos". The result: Cruzeiro put 1,427 more fans that Atletico in the Mineirao that game. More importantly this was during a time when Cruzeiro had a clearly inferior team. That was in the 80's..imagine now.
[edit] Romax
An anonymous user (User:70.48.102.114, his contributions here) keeps adding a player called Romax in the list of famous Atlético players. However, he seems to be non-notable or non-existant, or, most probable, a hoax, so, I removed it. A Google search get no results. This is the player's entry he added to the article:
- Romax - Known as "The Boy Wonder" had success in Brazil's U-17 National Team, where he won various titles and excelled in scoring. Played few games for Atletico as a serious knee complication cut this future legend's career short.
Regards, Carioca 04:37, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry but it is a fact that Cruzeiro has the largest fanbase in Minas Gerais. MANY surveys from MANY different people have been done and the results never change. Atletico having the biggest fanbase in Minas or being "traditionally known as the most popular club in Minas Gerais" (as you put it)should not be mentioned at all in this article because that statement is factually incorrect. And it should be also noted that in 1981 there was a challenge issued from both organizations to see which of the two teams could get the most fans into a derby match that year (a match that went down in history as " o clássico dos ingressos". The result: Cruzeiro put 1,427 more fans that Atletico in the Mineirao that game. More importantly this was during a time when Cruzeiro had a clearly inferior team. That was in the 80's, Cruzeiro's fanbase has almost doubled since then and in now one of the 7 largest in the country.
[edit] Gilberto Silva vs. Atlético Mineiro
In November 2002, Gilberto Silva sued Atlético Mineiro. Does anybody know the outcome of this case? Details are here: http://ussoccerplayers.com/latest_soccer_news/329826.html
I think a note about this case on this article and the Gilberto Silva article would be useful - but I can't find any more information other than the link.
--GilbertoSilvaFan 11:10, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notable Matches
Well... we could use a description of Atlético most notable and important matches, I mean, those ones that were sad, happy or polemical... this would improved the quality of the article.
--Etpezzini
