Talk:Clothing terminology
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[edit] Pant terminology
T-shirt, shirt, blouse, etc. Anything which is worn around the chest has many names depending on kind... But... Besides Jeans being denim-pants... Is there any word for wool pants of the kind which match sweaters/sweatshirts? 'Cause in Spanish both are called "buzo" akin to the Spanish (at least in Lima-Peru) name for Scuba divers... But in English... How is it?
[edit] Watchet
The word links to an entry which does not clarifies in which way a "watchet" is some kind of clothing
[edit] History
How did these terms originate? Who decided to use missy instead of a more specific, descriptive term?
Where did the term tank top come from?
[edit] Culture
How do people learn about these terms, and at what age? What percentage of men even know what missy means?
[edit] Notes on major rewrite
I started a complete new structure for this article based on the request for wikification and tone. Much of what was in the original article is covered thoroughly elsewhere (the question about t-shirts vs polo shirts is covered under shirt, for example). I am trying to cover as many of the original "questions" by links as I can.
The question on standard sizes and why they are called that should probably be an entire article of its own; I'll need to do some research before I tackle it. ("Half sizes" to "queen" to "womens/plus sizes" happened in the last 50 years, and of course all those are US only).
I am thinking we need Clothing:Sizes, Clothing:Merchandizing, etc. Or something like them...
PKM 02:37, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
At the same time I moved from page:
There is a wide variety of clothing terminology, and some such terms cannot be found in most dictionaries. For example, a search of a wide variety of online dictionaries failed to find a single clothing-related definition for the term missy, which is a very widely used term for a category of women's clothing.
[edit] Gender differences in clothing terminology
The terms shirt, blouse, and top have similar meanings but different uses. The latter two are used primarily for women's garments, whereas shirt can refer to clothing for either gender. Top can also be used as a general term for any clothing on the upper body, from a camisole to a coat.
[edit] Gender differences in clothing departments
Men's clothing departments are typically arranged by style (casual, sportswear, formal) whereas women's clothing departments are typically arranged by size. Thus, clothing stores often have women's Petites departments but rarely a men's Mediums department.
[edit] Men's clothing terms
The difference between a T-shirt, a golf shirt, and a polo shirt is...
The difference between pants and slacks is...
The terms blazer, dinner jacket, and sports coat all have similar meanings but different connotations.
[edit] Women's clothing terms
Junior - is this an age range or a size range?
Missy / Misses / Miss - are these synonyms or do they each mean something slightly different? Do they refer to age, size, or marital status?
Petites - I guess these are small sizes
Plus size - and these are larger sizes
The difference between tights and leggings is...
[edit] Formality
Casual, country club casual, business casual, semi-formal, formal, and black-tie are among the terms used to describe types of clothing according to how formal they are.
[edit] More good work, PKM!
This is a well-done article. Thanks ever so much.
I arrived in Wikipedia intending to work on the costume and clothing articles, which were and are sketchy, and ended up writing articles on Islam and Islamic history. (I'm not a Muslim, I've just been researching the topic, and writing for Wikipedia is a great spur to research.) But I'd be happy to get back to work on the clothing stuff, particularily if there are other people working on the topics. Wikipedia could be a great history of costume resource, frex, and there's practically nothing.
Another editor who worked on the Corset article with me is also good on clothing topics -- I'm blanking on her name. A good community of editors could get lots done. Zora 21:12, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] New Section July 2005
I've started the "Sources" section with a few items - there is lots more to be done here, please jump in.
We need something on the adoption and twisting of foreign and native dress terms (e.g. sarong). And place names as sources (e.g. Jersey, Guernsey). PKM 2 July 2005 17:48 (UTC)
[edit] Suggested addition to the main page
Where would the word pleat belong? It didn't seem to fit any of the existing categories but I couldn't think of a category for the term. Embellishments? doesn't seem right. I'm not an apparel expert, just looking for information on pleats, including types of and the manufacturing process. I'll have to do more research on pleats and perhaps try to write that entry. But if someone can come up with the category name that would be great.
Me again. I came up with an appropriate category (I think). Now we need to fill in the details.
- I've been mentally wrestling with what to do about an article on pleat. The British usage seems to be plait and US references I have pre-WWII also refer to "plaits" where we would now say "pleats" - but of course "plait" also means "braid". Still don't have a good answer.
- In any case, I think "pleats" go with tucks, smocking, gathers, shirring - maybe as "fabric manuipulations"? Will try that... PKM 20:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
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- Fabric manipulations sounds great to me. Thanks for all the work you've been putting into this! Zora 20:29, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Academic dress
Argh, got my comment on the last fix backward. Academic regalia redirects to academic dress, therefore the latter is the approved link. PKM 03:58, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dart, DTM (Dye to Match)
Where do these go?
There must be millions of technical and manufacturing terms not listed here. 88.109.152.209 00:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sealing Process
Do terms relating to the sealing process belong here?
... In fact I can't find sealing process on wiki at all. The sealing process happens when the exact details of the product are confirmed between the supplier and the retailer. There are 'gold seals' and 'red seals' that I know of, and maybe others. 88.109.152.209 00:54, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
