Wikipedia talk:Cleaning up vandalism

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Contents 1 Dangers 2 Schism 3 Proposed changes 4 Living people 5 Further changes 6 Read the instructions on biographies 7 What if... 8 What to do 9 Proposal: ability to Watchlist contributions list of an editor 10 WP:RFI gone

[edit] Dangers

Guess we need something on the dangers. i.e. WP:AGF etc. Also to note that POV issues aren't vandalism and you should avoid getting into edit wars since WP:3RR also applies to you in such cases, also the test templates are inappropriate in such cases... --pgk^(talk) 22:43, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I think I've mentioend the 3rr bit already. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 22:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Should we add something like Maintained by the Counter Vandalism Unit or something? Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 02:53, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

it's not maintained BY the CVU, although we have pointers back to them.

Let me elaborate on that. Wikipedia pages are maintained by whoever edits them. so in this case, this page is maintained by whoever that wants to maintain it. Any cvu user or not can edit it and improve it. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 21:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not talking about owning pages. The CVU is just a WikiProject, and WikiProjects use templates to indicate where centralized discussion about theme-wide pages is held. (An example I can think right off the bat is {{hurricane}}). I'm saying something like that, not "The Counter Vandalism Unit's Portal" or anything of those sorts. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 21:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

oh, seems good :) -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 19:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

I also fixed the template inclusion 8the box within box looked funny. However, it may be good idea to remove pieces of it, as the same information is already found at greater depth at other boxes. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:24, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Some of those links are repetitive. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 04:25, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

For isntance, the "tool" links are explained at depth at the "tools" gren box, and "resources and assistance" are shown at "pointers". I see that template as some sort of "quick index", we do plan of having them explained in depth-- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:27, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

We also need a "what NOT to do" box -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Schism

There is a proposal to move several processes; among others, the proposal would move Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism to Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress. If you would like to comment, please do so at WT:VIP#Schism. // Pathoschild (_admin / ^talk) 09:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed changes

• How about moving the "What to do if you spot vandalism" section to above the "Tools" section? The reasoning being that it would be useful for anyone visiting this page to know how to warn/report vandals, however only the more interested will want access to the dedicated vandal fighting tools. Petros471 10:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

• Change title "Pointers" to "Quick links"? Petros471 10:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

In light of no comment, I've gone ahead and made the changes. Petros471 13:51, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Living people

Shouldn’t there be a mention of the Living People Category, Related changes page ( see Category:Living people and Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:Living people) here. This category was set up to make it easy to keep a look out for libel on living people it needs to be patrolled just like the recent changes list. Lumos3 15:31, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Further changes

As you can see I've been bold and have made/will be making some further changes. I asked someone I came across reporting vandalism to WP:RFI what their suggestions were to improving this page. One of them was the focus is pretty much just a seminar on warning. Make a brief and then link to the outline. So I'm taking this and other ideas into account with the focus helping this page be a starting stop for people thinking "I've found vandalism, what do I do about it?".

Comments, suggestions, etc always welcome! Petros471 18:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

• I've commented out the Did you know, news, and articles on watch sections. This is because they don't seem to be updated, and are not really needed to fulfil the proposed purpose of this page suggested above. Petros471 18:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Read the instructions on biographies

All those involved in "counter vandalism" or "RC patrol" should read WP:BLP. The Wikimedia Foundation receives many complaints from people who have seen their biography (or that of a family member) on Wikipedia, have found libellious or personal information in the bio, removed it, only to have the same information reappear.

Remember, removing content deemed undesirable as per WP:BLP is not vandalism. It is a legitimate act. Please do not blindly revert, especially on biographies or when a living person is discussed in a possibly libellious way. David.Monniaux 15:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What if...

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what if someone gives someone else a warning on their talk page for no reason (say, e.g. for the fun of it to increase the chance they get blocked later)? I used to have this problem, but it's gone now... Insanephantom 14:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What to do

Another step that should be included is to check the other contributions by that user, especially those marked top. Perhaps it says this somewhere, but I didn't spot it. JMcC 07:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal: ability to Watchlist contributions list of an editor

As it stands now, one has to go through the last vandal edit to reach the contributions list of the vandal. This would reduce the cost of vandalism identification, the better to warn the vandal and stop him. If this proposal holds up to scrutiny, how can it be implemented? Thx. Thomasmeeks 12:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Allow watching of Special:Contributions/username

e.g. to watch me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Frank_Lofaro_Jr.&action=watch

Currently it ignores the parameter action=watch and just displays the current contents of that page. Special pages don't support watching, likely since it would require code to handle each case.

That being said, your suggestion is a good one, but likely requires changes to the MediaWiki code. Hopefully a developer (e.g. Brion Vibber) will implement it, it shouldn't be that hard for that particular special page. --Frank Lofaro Jr. 18:10, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RFI gone

The paragraph referring to WP:RFI needs to be reworked, since that page is now closed.

I don't know enough about what goes where and what the current distinctions between the different kinds of vandalism are considered to be, so I'll let someone more knowledgable do the reworking. --Frank Lofaro Jr. 16:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

How's that? I've done a quick edit of the page, there might still be more things needing updating. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Petros471 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC).