Category talk:Cleanup by month

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Contents 1 Article tracking counts 2 Subcat sorting 3 Concern over cleanup rate 4 Deleting a page 5 A curiosity 6 2200 articles??? 7 Number of Articles Remaining table 8 Wikipedia:Cleanup/month subpages 9 {cleaned} tag etc 10 percentage

[edit] Article tracking counts

Month	2005-08-28	2005-09-08	2005-09-15	2005-09-25	2005-10-03	2005-10-28
Jun 2004	?	7	0	0	0	0
Jul 2004	?	29	0	0	0	0
Aug 2004	?	20	18	1	1	0
Sep 2004	65	43	42	32	12	2
Oct 2004	96	90	87	80	65	39
Nov 2004	154	134	130	125	113	22
Dec 2004	303++	272++	268++	252++	236++	164++
Jan 2005	289	?	266	263	254	207
Feb 2005	314	?	298	289	280	252
Mar 2005	509	?	476	461	449	381
Apr 2005	592	?	559	551	537	492
May 2005	859	?	779	749	729	648
Jun 2005	1096+	?	981+	936+	913+	837+
Jul 2005	1529+	?	1397+	1345+	1292+	1183+
Aug 2005	2226+	?	2172+	2056+	1981+	1781+
Sep 2005	n/a	?	993+	1689+	2008+	1721+
Oct 2005	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a	194+	1690+
Total	8032+	?	8466+	8829+	9064+	9419+

++(plus renaming page)
+(plus central listing)

[edit] Subcat sorting

To sort each new subcategory in date order, tag it as [[Category:Cleanup by month| yyyy-mm]], inserting the year and month, and including the space after the pipe. sjorford #£@%&$?! 16:35, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Concern over cleanup rate

See discussion at Wikipedia talk:Cleanup. -- Beland 07:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting a page

So I just terminated March 2005. Do I delete the page now or what exactly? Kaisershatner 20:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I figured it out, I think, at WP:CSD it says four days of being empty is the standard. Kaisershatner 14:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A curiosity

The number of articles with dated cleanup tags has gone up by around a thousand in a month, but the percentage of articles with cleanup tags has remained more or less the same. Seems articles in need of cleanup (or are detected as such) are added at the same rate as new articles! However, if May ends up being anything like April that might change--there's a ridiculous number of articles in need of cleanup that are tagged for April. 2442! S'crazy! Tamarkot 22:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2200 articles???

We tagged 2200 articles for cleanup in eight days??? Ideogram 19:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

No. Pearle didn't do a sweep through {{cleanup-date}} tagged articles through early June, so a bunch of articles piled up in Category:Wikipedia cleanup, and then we got them all dropped in here at once. That said, we did tag 2900 articles in under a month; this whole accelerating rate of growth thing could get problematic sort of quickly if it keeps up. --Robth^Talk 04:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that Pearle wasn't doing anything, so I put Alphachimpbot to work. He flagged something like over 1500 articles in the last 5 days. That's why it suddenly looks bad. --Alphachimp ^talk 05:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Number of Articles Remaining table

I've written a bot, User:CbmBOT, that will automatically calculate how many articles there are remaining for each month and output the wikitable code. Currently it doesn't automatically update the page (it's pending approval on Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval), but I've been using the output to update the table.

I don't know if people from this talk page would have any sway either way, but if so, please let me know what you think (ie. on the RfA page). –Dvandersluis 04:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

nah, this is a good venue. There just aren't enough changes or questions here for anyone to really pay attention. Alphachimp ^talk 17:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Cleanup/month subpages

I don't think it's a good idea to include the counts from those pages in the table because:

1. We never have before, nor do we do so for any other month (other than the recently-added June 2005)
2. We don't know what has been cleaned up and what hasn't; pages that are marked {{cleanup}} are obviously marked for cleanup until completed, these pages are not concrete.

–Dvandersluis 02:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I basically agree, but then the Wikipedia:Cleanup/June page probably shouldn't be in the Category:Cleanup from June 2005.

More importantly, we shouldn't be attempting to count the "Music cleanup by month" articles, which is being promoted by a hidden comment. If the Music cleanup people want them counted here, they should just have their template include their articles in both "Music cleanup by month" and "Cleanup by month" subcategories. -R. S. Shaw 05:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd suggest for just that: The subpages shouldn't be included in the category. In fact, CbmBOT ignores them completely when rebuilding the table. In terms of the Music cleanup articles, it seems to be that people want them in the category (as shown by edits when they are ignored/skipped) – classifying them as both would be a good compromise. Comments? –Dvandersluis 13:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {cleaned} tag etc

An editor just added stuff saying don't just delete {cleanup} but replace it with {cleaned} (which leaves a box on it and puts the page in Category:Pages in need of review). This doesn't seem to have been discussed and seems like not too good a procedure. We don't need extra process for the 18,000 pages needing cleaning; we need to clean them. I'm removing the changes for now. -R. S. Shaw 19:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. –Dvandersluis 12:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] percentage

0.00% ?

If that's mathematically correct, it'd be better to say "less than 0.01%" --Espoo 09:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

The problem was due to Special:Statistics, which CbmBOT gets the total number of articles from. It seems that before the update on November 24, some wording on that page changed, which caused the bot not to be able to parse the total number of articles properly. I've fixed it now.

As an aside, I also put in a check that will use "less than 0.01%", rather than "0.00%" if it ever really is under 0.01%.

–Dvandersluis 14:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that. Wouldn't it be possible for the bot to also state the daily changing total of all pages it uses to calculate the result? I.e. now "19,675 articles were tagged for cleanup, or 1.30% of the English Wikipedia's current total of 1,516,146 articles." Most people do not understand percentages well, especially small ones, and the huge total helps people see the true nature i.e. small relative size of the problem. Thanks! --Espoo 17:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I've implemented that now, it'll start with tomorrow's update. –Dvandersluis 16:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --Espoo 12:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)