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Contents 1 various 2 things to add 3 commencement speakers 4 more various 5 Jerry Garcia 6 Proposed merge of Clark University Escort

[edit] various

I got rid of that ridiculous Wesleyan reference, yet another Peet reference under trivia, and some lame thing about ROCU not being able to broadcast on campus. Please guys -- this is an encyclopaedia. -- unsigned

WHAT the hell is that about richard peet and 1960s blah blah??

WHAT? get rid of that -- unsigned

I think status of college broadcast facilities is a perfectly reasonable thing to include. But this article is overall kinda cruddy for something referring to a whole university, so I'll assume whatever it was was poorly written. -- Akb4 11:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm trying to make a few pages about student groups on campus. In order to help the continuity of these groups. I had a section up, but it was taken down. Any clues why?--Knishycous 19:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

grumpy anal wikipedia editors? student life at a university seems a reasonable part of the university's article to me.; make a subsection for it. Please make things at least reasonably factual; "worst food" (see below) is a pretty hard claim to justify, unless there have been many illnesses. -- Akb4 11:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I removed the entry about Clark having the worst food service in the history of higher education. Just sounds like a disgruntled, hungry, current student complaining... -- unsigned

[edit] things to add

Can someone add a few sentences about the Center for Holocaust & Genocide Studies--it is the first program in the country to give Ph.Ds in Holocaust Studies? Yes.

Something on the residence halls,and the buildings on campus. Gooddard Library is a National Monument.

Add something about that Freud statue!!

[edit] commencement speakers

Why does the article list Clark's commencement speakers? Being a commencement speaker is not, by itself, a significant tie to a university, and there are many other schools with impressive lists of commencement speakers. This list thus tells the reader little about Clark. Besides, if every school's Wikipedia entry included such a list, they would become unwieldy.

Agreed. What does the list of commencement speakers say about Clark? A commencement speech isn't even an endorsement. The list detracts from the article as a whole. Any organisation with a little bit of money could find impressive speakers, and surely there are more impressive things that might be said about Clark than a list of people who happened to speak there. Does anyone have a reason why the list should be retained?

Well, it's long gone now, but I would have suggested a list of commencement speakers was relavent and should simply have been moved to a "list" article. I suppose I could dig the list out of an old rev of the article, but don't have time just now. I'd also suggest that anytime something becomes unwieldy, it can be broken out. Thus we grow like unto a fractal tree, until all that meets the key criteria (OR, NPOV, libel, etc.) criteria is included. Even if it says nothing about the college, the list could help people working on bios of the speakers, social trends in commencement speakers over time, etc etc. -- Akb4 11:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] more various

Another point: the trivia section says "Clark is the only liberal arts university in the country." I have no idea what this means. It can't be that Clark offers liberal arts programs, since almost all universities do likewise. It may mean that Clark only offers programs in the liberal arts, but one definition of the term "university" is an institution which offers liberal arts along with other fields; thus, an institution which offers nothing else would not be deemed a university at all.

I'm assuming it means that Clark tries to focus on providing the small-college atmosphere and rounded education of a liberal arts school while also containing the advantages of a big university. Even if that's true, I don't think it makes Clark unique- it's also one of the selling points of the University of Chicago and probably some other schools. Stilgar135 17:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

It's because a college offers only undergraduate programs. A university offers the additional graduate program. 20:41, 21 November 2006 (EST)

And what are we to make of the opening paragraph's claim that "Clark is the second oldest all-graduate institution"? The rest of the article makes it abundantly clear that Clark is *not* all-graduate. Perhaps it once was, but if that is the case and if it was the second all-graduate institution the statement should be written in the past tense and explained a bit.

I changed this to state that at one time they were all graduate. I have absolutely no idea if this is true, but it makes more sense than the way the sentence read previously. -- Akb4 11:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

The opening paragraph also claimed that Clark was the smallest research university in the US; this is clearly not true, as Rockefeller University is significantly smaller. Statement removed. -- Akb4 11:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

macmillan: You may think that my trivia point was "slanderous," but it was not because it is the truth. The saying really was: "If you can't go to college, go to Clark." You can't edit out facts just because you don't like them. Thus, I will reinsert it. 16:44, 4 12 2006 (EST).

  p.s.: if you challenge me to find a source for my quote, I challenge you to cite the myriad "facts" and trivia within the Clark article. There's a lot of work to be done here!

[edit] Jerry Garcia

I removed this from the trivia section:

Jerry Garcia once reffered to Clark University's Goddard Library as "his favorite place to trip."

I've heard a version of this claim as well but I could not find any source for it. Also I don't think Jerry Garcia usually referred to himself in the third person so it seems strange that he would call the library "his favorite place...". --JHG 15:42, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

someone appears to have re-added this, but I'm not going to futz with it. -- Akb4 11:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merge of Clark University Escort

I proposed a merge of Clark University Escort onto the security section of the main article. The topic doesn't seem notable enough to warrant a separate article, since many schools offer a similiar service. Is there something unique about Clark's version? - DJHeini (talk) 02:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)