Talk:Claims to be the fastest growing religion
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This page replaces "Fastest Growing Religion" see Talk:Fastest growing religion for reasons. Mike Young 11:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Jedi
The Jedi_census_phenomenon should at least be referred to in this article. --Dweller 12:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
- Is it a religion at all? And to establish a rate of growth, you need both a baseline and a subsequent survey (e.g. at least two consecutive censuses in the same area). AnonMoos 14:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "While there is no doubt.."
This line has nothing to do with the subject. I deleted it. The page now starts with "There are..." Needless to say, that's more appropriate since this *is* the subject.--SlightlyInsane 21:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] reconciled with Religion Trends in adherence
I understand the point of these two isn't the same (claims to be fastest growing vs overall trends among fast and slow growing) but there seem to be some glaring differences that at least should be addressed somehow.
There is a section here that notes "The World Christian Encyclopaedia estimates that there were 2,883,011 converts to Christianity each year between 1990 and 2000." which is noted on the Trends section as 1.36%, and slower than the rate of population growth of the planet, but this statement occurs right after claiming 2.3% here, among the highest in the world for the prior 20ish years claiming higher growth than the population growth of the planet. I understand these are not the same periods of time but these seem too mixed together and contradictory - did something happen in Christianity or the world in general to drop it from among the fastest growing religions to one of the slowest %-wise? Not that I'm aware of.
The Trends second mentions Zoroastrianism and the Bahá'í faith in or near the lead, and not Falun Gong (which is presented with logic more than statistics in the Claims article), or Wicca at all, while Claims is exactly reversed. I see that Wicca is missing from the World Christian Enc source which might help explain that difference but it's just left sitting there one mentioning high and other not mentioning it at all. Trends mentions Buddhism as well down the line while Claims mentions in it just for Australia.
Islam - one of the few common entries between the two article/sections is cited with number counts rather than % except by an openly unsourced claim, but then a "reason" is mentioned that Muslims can't apostasize. "Reasons" for religious growth or not isn't evenly worked out across the Claims article...
It's just hair raising. At least pick some sources and review consistently what each one says and segregate world-wide counts/%'s and regional ones. Then perhaps cautiously claims from the sources could be compared for simple things (like not counting Wicca from the WC Enc) or the like, being carefull about Original Research.
The only good sections are the "Different definitions" and "difficulty" sections.--Smkolins 13:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Someone please provide a reliable source for that claim, All it says is that According to Christian Encycloedia, but where's the reliable source for this claim. It points to an anti-islamic site as the source, I dont think thats a wise and reliable source which can be taken into account. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.111.238.236 (talk) 18:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC).
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- I'm not aware there are any more "reliable" sources than those mentioned in the various webpages. Moreover these sources are used in a wide variety of articles online about such things (including adherents.com.) However if what you want is the reference, just follow the links in the original articles.--Smkolins 20:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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The whole point of this article is that their are various and contradictory Claims, and it depends what you mean by "Fastest growing religion". This is not an article about what is the fastest growing religion, but about the fact that we cannot really know what it is, and the fact that many of the claims contradict one another, especially any having anything to do with conversion.
That being said, I am still happy to remove some of the more wacky claims.Mike Young 19:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Any increase in world population will increase number of Christians
As Christianity is the largest religion in the world, any increase in the world population will give Christianity a greater absolute number of new members.
I deleted this logically flawed claim. --ThorstenNY 20:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- How about
As Christianity is the largest religion in the world, an evenly distributed increase in the world population will give Christianity a greater absolute number of new members.
Mike Young 20:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
