Talk:City of Thuringowa

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Assessment comments The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · refresh) Needs citations for the Brief History section The Medical Centres and other Health Related Offices, Media, Tourist information and Major Entertainment and Dining Venues sections should be changed from lists to prose noting only a few important items. List of suburbs would be much better in the format used in Template:Suburbs of Townsville/Thuringowa Error in citation 13 and citation 17 does not specify the date or edition

[edit] Review comments

The fact that Thuringowa has a McDonalds / Subway / Pizza Hut doesn't seem to be notable in any way. Just bringing it up because if I remember correctly Wikipedia has a policy regarding things that aren't notable. I imagine it helps them do things like scrap articles like 'List of roundabouts in Thuringowa' and the like. I'd probably check out the pages for London / Tokyo / New York as a reference - I can imagine they're more heavily edited and so would give a good idea of what deserves to be included. 202.173.147.28 05:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

thank you for your POV i listed this small part about Thuringowa having Fast food as it is info that peopel coming here want to know and i have to ask why did you say this 'List of roundabouts in Thuringowa' i never started a artical called this. i have looked at pages like you said and this is why i have added what i did when you look up some in Wiki you want as much info as you can get so peopel know what is here what they can see and do here so im must say sorry but i feel that all the info on this page is Notable.

thank you Thuringowacityrep 10:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

The whole idea is that this meant to be an online encyclopedia, and an encyclopedia wouldn't list all the shopping centres (including corner stores), schools and fast food places. For fariness sake you should probably list every last store meeting the criteria, and for notabilities sake you probably shouldn't list any. I don't think the idea is to put "as much info as you can get" here - perhaps that's something for a tourism site, and even then I don't think they'd want the lists. Just my two cents. 202.173.147.28 16:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

To be fair I think schools and shopping centres (though, as you said, not corner stores) would be listed - I would be surprised if an entry on Perth did not have a mention of Hale School for example - although the detail may well be more suited to suburb articles. Orderinchaos78 23:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accuracy disputed

I object to the following inaccuracies (in order of importance):

• State Electoral Districts do not distinguish the Cities from each other the boarders for all three levels of Government are determined independently from each other.
• The whole infrastructure section needs referencing, but in particular; The City Council has nothing to do with where Hospitals or medical centres are placed, State Government controls the public Hospitals and private hospitals are managed by their owners under regulatory scope of the Federal Government.
• reference number 4 does not fit with the fact it is referencing
• the info about the weather station needs to be either sourced or more specific, eg. who is building the weather station.
• For consistency with the Townsville articles the population estimates should remain at medium projection, and now that it is 2007 the text should read 'with a 2006 population estimated at 61,072 people' until the 2007 projections are released or at least identify that the pop projection is in the high range of the 2006 projection.
• There is no such thing as Thuringowa CBD, there is Thuingowa Central.

I will be happy to remove the notice once most of the inaccuracies have been corrected, if no one wants to do it, I will do so in a few days time. Alec ^{-(answering machine)} 15:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I looked into reference no.4 - it pointed to an unrelated customer service award article. So far there is only a side reference on a Thuringowa page to this award [1] and another here (Aug 2005) [2]. Strangely the ABC suggest that Nebo was the 2005/06 winner, while Innisfail was 2004/05. [3] I've put a citation needed tag on it until this can be cleared up. With regards to the CBD/Central issue, no official publications use "Thuringowa CBD", however it is in sufficient usage (including, ironically, on Townsville council's webpage) [4] that I think it's safe to use. Orderinchaos78 23:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, while I do dispute the factual accuracy of the term Thuringowa CBD it is not a big issue for me, that is why I put it at the bottom of the list of importance and stated in my closing sentence that I would not be requiring all the issues to be addressed. Alec ^{-(answering machine)} 00:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

this is what I will do

• Remove Electoral District quote
• I know that The City Council has nothing to do with where Hospitals or medical centres this is info I was given and yes I am unable to cite it but to try to keep you happy I will make some changes to it to show that they will put it to the State Government .
• reference number 4 does fit with the fact it is referencing it is about Thuringowa being voted NQ tidy town at the bottom of the page but with the new info from Orderinchaos78 I will look into it and see it I can find a better ref.
• the info about the weather station will be sourced and made more specific, however the info on who is building the weather station it not available yet.
• I will change to pop back to 61,072 people but I feel that this is being petty.
• There is such a thing as Thuringowa CBD, most people know that CBD stands for Central Business District and this would be Thuingowa Central the main post office is called the Thuringowa Central Business Centre and again with the info from Orderinchaos78 I will be leaving it as it is.

just like to add that you are the only person that seems to have a problem with the Thuringowa page don't edit a page to get back at me as you and any one can see I am in the middle of cleaning up the Thuringowa page to bring it up to code. thank you Thuringowacityrep 00:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

This isn't to get back at you, this has been a long time coming TCR, you just put me in the right frame of mind for it last night, you seem to be treating the Thuringowa page as a tourist promotional page, which is fine because you're the one putting in the work and most of your edits have been good, I'm just saying you can do that without putting in inaccuracies with the purpose of disassociating Thuringowa from its 'neighbour city' Townsville.

1. Thank you
2. Thank you
3. I didn't see that, I will check it again.
4. my main query is if it is being built Thuringowa City Council or the Bureau of Meteorology, I have a vague recollection that the City Council has taken on this project so they should probably get the credit. I'll do the research on this one if you like.
5. I thought your change was petty in the first place
6. As I said above I think I am correct but I'm not going to hold a accuracy disputed tag over an article for something like that. Alec ^{-(answering machine)} 00:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

hi again can you tell me how I am to fix the citations needed you added, Thuringowa doesn't have a hospital, I have never seen it in print anywhere but most of us no that it doesn't and that is why I said it relies on the Townsville based ones, and with "the best location would be in the northern beaches area" this info I got while talking with the mayor so as you would know I can not cite that but I do feel that it is important info that need to stay. waiting for your views please. thanks Thuringowacityrep 03:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Thuringowacityrep, I think that that is his opinion and and while he is a very influential person he doesn't really have a say in the matter other than lobbying other levels of Government and private investors. Even if he had said this publicly and that could be cited maybe... I would suggest removing the first sentence until the Mayor or someone in Government comments publicly about Thuringowa being the only city of its size not to have a hospital and the fact that the Northern Beaches would be a preferred site. I have no objection to the reference to Thuringowa residents relying on the Townsville based hospitals, you could even say that one of the arguements for moving Townsville Hospital to its current site was to bring it closer to western resdients that live in Thuringowa, I'm sure I've seen that somewhere. Alec ^{-(answering machine)} 03:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Does the area have a local rag such as the Western Suburbs Weekly or the Stonnington Leader? Mayors and councillors often get front page on there with their thoughts on a range of issues. The citation would then work something like "The mayor of Thuringowa advised local media in December 2006 that the Northern Beaches area would be the best location for a future hospital (ref)" and it's verifiable, reliably sourced and NPOV (as you're attributing it as the considered opinion of a named individual). Orderinchaos78 04:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

hi thanks for your idea but the problem is that this info about the Hospital location came from the Thuringowa Mayor when i was talking with him, he has no plans to have a hospital built anytime soon (as it says) and when he feels that there is a need he will contact the people he needs to, so he has never said anything about this to the media or the public i'm about the only one that knows, so can you tell me of a way that this info can stay as i feel that it is important and it is a fact. thanks Thuringowacityrep 07:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

can you all have a look at this page as it just shows some thoughts http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=292324&page=3

it's a chat site... how does that contribute anything? Alec ^{-(answering machine)} 09:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

like i said "it just shows some thoughts and contains a lot of info about Townsville and Thuringowa developments that must be on the net somewhere if these people have the info....so i thought i would put it on and ask you all to have a look as you may find some info you can use on some of your sites (i know i will look up some of this info on google and see if i can use it on some pages) so that is how is contribute's. sorry for trying to help Thuringowacityrep 10:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the link - however, there's nothing there that is really searchable from a Google point of view as far as I can see - it is really just a small group of people's opinions on current developments in the Townsville and Thuringowa area. You could almost get better info off the shopping centres' own websites. Orderinchaos78 07:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quick one

How is Thuringowa actually pronounced? Is it like thoo-RING-oh-wah, or -goh-, or -gow-, or some other? Orderinchaos78 07:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I pronounce it Tha - ung - gow - a but TCR may have a link to a proper pronunciation guide. Alec ^{-(answering machine)} 07:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

hi this is how i was told to sound it out ...THOU (like "Cow") - IN - GOW (like Cow) - A (like the start of "up") hop this helps Thuringowacityrep 10:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Cool... I just had the crazy idea then of phoning their main number (at what would be 10:30pm local time) and seeing how the answering service pronounced it - "Thurrin-gow-ah" with the first part sounding like "hurry", as it turns out. At least I now know my own idea of it was *way* out, even if I'm still not completely certain what it actually is yet :) Orderinchaos78 11:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)