Talk:Circle changeup

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is a circle changeup different from a changeup{are circle change and changeup the same thing} —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.23.248.253 (talk • contribs) 14 June 2006.

They are different in both grip and movement. Compare this article with changeup. -Phoenixrod 21:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Nolan Ryan was known first for his fastball, and second for his curveball. He threw a good changeup, but his esteem and reputation were only marginally built on the change.