Talk:Cinderella (sports)
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Can you really call the 2004 Boston Red Sox a Cinderella team? After all, they did have Curt Schilling, Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Keith Foulke and Pedro Martinez all on the team, and they were the best team offensively in baseball. It's not as though they came out of nowhere or were not expected to go anywhere. The 1986 Boston Red Sox, however, were a Cinderella team. Kntrabssi 23:19, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Which teams are real Cinderella/Cinder-fella (U.S.) teams?
In baseball, I wouldn't count the 2005 White Sox or 2004 Red Sox, because both teams were not really considered long shots. The Chicago White Sox steamrolled their way throughout the postseason, while the Red Sox had great expectations once Curt Schilling and Keith Foulke joined the team. The 2003 Marlins, 2002 Angels, and the 2001 Diamondbacks, however, are perfect examples of teams exceeding postseason expectations. We should remove the former two mentioned.
DaDoc540 07:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- Likewise - I'd hardly count the 2006 Steelers a "Cinderella" team. At lot of the teams listed here are subjective and perhaps not overly suitable in an encyolpedic article like this. --Rehnn83 Talk 14:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I Propose to drastically cut the list of teams here - maybe to three or four form each sport - but to also include a reason why there were classed as a "Cinderella" team. -- Rehnn83 Talk 14:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Georgia Tech
I wouldn't call the 2004 Georgia Tech team a Cinderella, especially when compared with some of the other teams on the list. They were seeded third in their region and didn't upset anyone of note (the top 2 seeds in the region both went out in the Round of 32). They didn't even play a team seeded higher than them until the Final Four. Moreover, this was a team that began the season 12-0 and was ranked as high as third in the country, going on to finish tied for third in ACC, the top conference in the country the season, so it's not as if they snuck up on anybody. Nevada, the team that Tech played in the Sweet Sixteen that year, would probably be a better example.
-- Apathyjunkie 19:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- I would argue that GT was a Cinderella team in that Chris Bosh had just left for the NBA and Ed Nelson transfered to UConn. Most experts picked GT to finish 7-9th in the ACC. Another Cinderella aspect of GT was the apparent lack of stars on the team. Only one of that team is playing the NBA and he was a backup point guard this year for Portland. GT, betting lines-wise, was an underdog in all of its last three games against Kansas, OK State, and UConn. That's Cinderella to me for their season and their tournament run.
- -- Excaliburhorn 18:13, 16 Oct 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Indiana State in 1979?!?!?!?!
By no means do they count as a Cinderella. Sure, they were a small school that hadn't done anything pre-Larry Bird, but let's not overlook the fact that they were a 1 seed, meaning that they were (in theory) projected to get to at least the Final Four. --fuzzy510 22:47, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Recent?
Why are we listing "Recent Examples of (US-style) 'Cinderellas'"? 1914 (Boston Braves) is not recent! Zé da Silva 21:29, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
