Cigarettes and Valentines
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| Cigarettes and Valentines | ||
| Studio album by Green Day | ||
| Released | Never released | |
| Recorded | 2003-2004 | |
| Genre | Rock | |
| Length | Unknown | |
| Label | Reprise Records | |
| Producer(s) | Rob Cavallo | |
| Professional reviews | ||
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| Green Day chronology | ||
| Shenanigans (album) 2002 |
Cigarettes and Valentines 2004 |
American Idiot 2004 |
Cigarettes and Valentines was supposed to be the next studio album from punk rock band Green Day following 2002's Shenanigans. The album was nearly finished when the master tracks for the album were stolen from the studio. Instead of re-recording the album, the band decided to start from scratch which lead to the creation of American Idiot.[citation needed] Billie Joe Armstrong said the album's material was "good stuff, solid stuff" but believed it wouldn't have sold as many copies as American Idiot did, as well as claiming the album wasn't "Maximum Green Day". The band's producer, Rob Cavallo, however, did not take as positive an attitude, as he told the band he thought the album was mediocre at best. Armstrong believes that theft of the master tracks however was a "blessing in disguise".[citation needed]
Earlier demos of the album's material do exist.[citation needed] With the touring of American Idiot finally over, there are rumours of rerecording the project. With the band back in the studio recording a follow-up - the future of the album remains to be seen.[citation needed] Billie Joe said that "Cigarettes And Valentines" was similar in sound to "Warning:", which happened to be their worst-selling album (excluding the pre-Reprise EPs and CDs).[citation needed] Bass player Mike Dirnt has admitted that backups of the tapes were made, but curiously claims that 'it just wasn't the same as the originals'. In the same interview, he stated that he is certain that the masters will be leaked by whoever stole them eventually, and that his only hope was that they gave it a decent front cover.
The album has come under fire for being Green Day's alter ego, The Network's album Money Money 2020. The band has hinted on several occasions that the two albums are one in the same, despite never confirming this or even admitting they are in fact The Network. In the November 2004 issue of Spin Magazine, Dirnt joked "We could've recorded an entire album in a day", which is precisely what occurred during the Money Money 2020 sessions.[citation needed]
From a logistical standpoint, the dates between the albums are very similar; "Cigarettes and Valentines" was recorded during the Spring of 2003, and planned for a fall release, the same plan "Money Money 2020" used.[citation needed]
Another argument for the theory lies in a demo Armstrong posted on GreenDay.com while the demoing process of Cigarettes... was taking place. The untitled piece was fast and aggressive, reminiscent of the earlier Green Day material. Upon the release of Money Money 2020, certain reputable fans noticed the demo's similarity to the middle eight of The Network's "Spike".
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