Talk:Church Committee
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This article should also mention that (in the opinion of some) the Church Committee’s activities were a factor that led to the 9/11 attacks. Legislation passed in the 1970's kept the FBI and the CIA from communicating. The Foreign Services Intelligence Act (passed as a result of the Church Committee’s findings) created an additional wall between the CIA and the FBI.
-- (Moved from article page, but I did not write this & I don't agree with it. Cromis 01:22, 3 August 2005 (UTC))
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[edit] Overkill on listing all sections of book 1 and 2?
I applaud User:DJ_Silverfish adding all of the seperate subsections of the book II and III to this page.
PROS:
It makes anyone searching for the church report to find this site on google.
It makes it easy for someone who wants to read a particular section of the report.
CONS:
It seems like overkill and makes the article look crowded. It seems unnecessary to add all the sections here, when a user can simply click on the book 1 and 2 and get all of the section headers.
SUGGESTION: I say possibly delete it, OR Add summaries of each section to make it more relevant for continued inclusion in the article. As mentioned, right now someone can simply click on the:
- Book II: Intelligence Activities and the Rights of Americans (412 pages)
- Book III: Supplementary Detailed Staff Reports on Intelligence Activities and the Rights of Americans (989 pages) links and get all of the subsections.
Anyway, I knew User:DJ_Silverfish spent a lot of time wikifying this section, so I did not want to miff him and simply delete it--what does everyone who is watching this page think? Travb 03:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Patriot act
The citation after "U.S. Army's spying on the civilian population" is not germane; it's about the Patriot Act and has nothing to do with the subject of the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.124.131.161 (talk • contribs) .
SIGN YOUR POSTS PLEASE! Travb 21:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
germane: Being both pertinent and fitting. Big word, I just learned a new one today.Travb 21:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
"U.S. Army's spying on the civilian population" Sigh, anon, have you read the Church Committee report? I havent completely, but I may have read more than you. Did you even read the article footnote this sentence was pertaning to, which was a direct quote?
- Underlying the discussion about how to respond to the terror attacks was the mid-1970s investigation, led by Senator Frank Church (D-Idaho), into the government's sordid history of domestic spying. Through hundreds of interviews and the examination of tens of thousands of documents, the Church Committee found that the FBI, the CIA, and other government agencies had engaged in pervasive surveillance of politicians, religious organizations, women's rights advocates, anti-war groups, and civil liberties activists. At FBI headquarters in Washington, agents had developed more than half a million domestic intelligence files during the Cold War. The CIA had secretly opened and often photographed almost a quarter-million letters in the United States from 1953 to 1973. One of the most egregious intelligence abuses was an FBI counterintelligence program known as COINTELPRO. It was, the Church Report said, "designed to 'disrupt' groups and 'neutralize' individuals deemed to be threats to domestic security." Among other things, COINTELPRO operations included undermining the jobs of political activists, sending anonymous letters to "spouses of intelligence targets for the purposes of destroying their marriages," and a systematic campaign to undermine the Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr.'s, civil rights efforts through leaked information about his personal life. "Too many people have been spied upon by too many government agencies and too much information has been collected" through secret informants, wiretaps, bugs, surreptitious mail opening, and break-ins, the Church Report had warned.
The article is refering to the Church Committee, and comparing the information uncoverd by the Church Committee to the Patriot Act.
Please read the footnote first. Thank you Travb 21:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello anon, so far your two links in your edits, has nothing to do with the church committee, and replaces an ABC news article that has a full pragraph about the Chuch committee (italics, above). I figure you are still editing, so I will check back later so there are no edit conflicts. Nice work on typos and "options of US government after the church committee" edits.Travb 23:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Wow, great article!
After reading a portion of your footnoted article, it looks good. Nice job. Travb 07:11, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
I really am learning a lot from the article--thanks for the link...Travb 07:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Maybe two links is better? Maybe two links is better than one :) Looks like another editor added back this link.Travb 23:43, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Rumsfeld section
It is unclear what value the "Rumsfeld and the Church committee" section has. Does it actually say anything at all? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lorenbr (talk • contribs).
- Rumsfield was very opposed to the results and recommendations of the CC. Maybe I should write this better, sorry it isn't clearer. Travb (talk) 20:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
