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[edit] Request to edit trostre afc

Hi. I am jordz mcguire, i was wondering if you could help me, the article about trostre afc is a mess, could you in any way help me? please! please edit my page with an answer of yes/no. please will you help? i need you!

[edit] Kennek Ryhope C.A. F.C.

Hi Chris,

Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for you contributions, specially to Kennek Ryhope C.A. F.C.. Actually the problem with the article is more than it's formatting. Most of the text in it is a direct copy-paste from the club website's History page and the Player profile page, and hence a clear copyright violation. We need to change it around and make sure we don't violate any copyrights. Do drop me a note to let me know if you want to work on it, or if you want a hand. Happy editing! -Aabha (talk) 17:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

Yeah, a plain list will be good. Have a look at Dorchester Town F.C., for instance. By the way, thought you might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Non-league football. We've only just started it, do join on, if you're keen. -Aabha (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gillingham FC Manager

In the middle of your good work on the Gillingham page last week, somebody operating from an IP number deleted the caretaker tag next to Ronnie J's name. My instinct is to re-instate it, because I don't remember his appointment as being confirmed, but I thought, in deference to your good work, I would run it past you first. What do you reckon?

I dunno what his official status is - I've never heard an announcement that he had signed a "full" contract, but then PDPS has stated that he'll still be manager next season even if we get relegated. My instinct would be to leave it on until such time as it's announced that he signed a full contract (thanks for the nice comments, BTW)ChrisTheDude 08:33, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I guess if there are 2 people here likely to respond to a Gills related request, that's us! My error in saying Gill's acknowledged, but a possible semantic debate about whether Gills is an adjective or a noun: Gills keeper or Gills' keeper ;) Kevin McE 18:19, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template:WMRL}

Hi! Thanks for creating the WMRL template and adding it to the club pages. If you are interested in doig more of the same, you might want to have a look at User:tompw/leaguetemplates. There's plenty of links and some notes to make sure they all work in the same way. Hope you find it useful. Tompw 13:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-league

Hey Chris,

What source do you use for the club histories, etc? Aabha (talk) 11:10, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Aabha

Mostly I just do web searches. Some club websites have a good history section, others don't but I have found good stuff elsewhere. The history I added this morning to Hythe Town F.C. came from a cached version of a defunct page on (I think) the Maidstone United website! ChrisTheDude 14:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok..do let me know if you come across a good site though. Thanks. Aabha (talk) 06:25, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I want to say Thanks for updating Abingdon United FC!!! Now I have to do is make sure that the stub is no longer needed but I needed help for de-stubbing the article, do you know how to look at the article and cleared it for de-stubbing??

Rakuten06 23:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. I have de-stubbed the article. The non-league project page suggests that an article can be de-stubbed if it includes:
    • Details of league played in, and rough geographic location (county / borough).
    • Completed infobox
    • Brief history and club records (Football Club History Database is useful here, but always cite your sources)
    • Link to club website
    • League template

The article on Abingdon seems to meet these criteria OK..... ChrisTheDude 12:34, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FCHD links

That's okay - I only created Template:fchd recently. The main reason for changing all the links over to use a template is because the site is apparently moving to a new address over the summer, so by changing the template to the new address, all the templated links will change over automatically. (Otherwise I'd probably be doing something more interesting :) — sjorford++ 14:10, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ROTR

I'm thinking of now nominating Roy of the Rovers for good article status, since a lot of work has been done on it of late to make it tighter and more concise - this is why I've been doing things like trimming the length of the contents and merging certain sections. However, articles need to be considered "stable" before people can really consider them - so I was wondering if you had any more information you were going to add to it any time soon? If I can mention in the nomination that, while there have been recent edits making it look "unstable", the two main contributors (i.e. me and you) feel it is more settled, then that might help its case. If, however, you're looking to add anything else any time soon, then let me know. I think, though, that with the latest round of tidying up (including adding new bits of clarification like sorting out the Hot Shot Hamish info), it seems pretty tight now - but I thought I'd see what you think.

I'd love to see the page as a Featured Article one day, but I doubt that'd happen any time soon - I don't think there's enough secondary material available online to be able to provide citations for all the info that it's lacking (it wouldn't really meet the "comprehensive" criterion of FAs, but I think its coverage is wide enough for a GA). Plus I don't think that an article with only two major contributors would be looked on particularly favourably - but I do reckon it might have a decent shout at being "Good", which is at least the first step. Seb Patrick 15:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good to me - I say go for it! I certainly can't think of anything significant and new that needs to be added - I think everything that needs to be said is covered as it stands, so I'd be happy to leave it alone for a while so that it "stabilises". As the contributor who's done the lion's share of the work on the article you certainly ought to get some recognition for a job well done, in my opinion, so it would be great to see it acclaimed as a GA! ChrisTheDude 06:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re : Hamish & Mouse

Excellent. I noticed you already made a Hot Shot Hamish redirect, too - so I took the liberty of adding a disambig link at the top of Mighty Mouse. Now that they have an article themselves, I may strip out some of the info from the RotR article to make it a bit more concise... Seb Patrick 13:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kaka

Your recent edit, dear friend, casts a slight doubt on the impartiality of things, putting it in 'good english' is one thing, however disregarding the complete honesty and sincerity, a signature of the pillars of wikipedia, is completely offenisive to a croatian supporter.

OK, please accept my apologies, although as I only changed "vital and necessary" to "vital", I'm not sure why this would cause offence. After all, "vital" and "necessary" mean exactly the same thing, so all I was doing was reducing two words with the same meaning to one word. But if I have by doing so caused offence, then I apologise..... ChrisTheDude 20:19, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The New Saints F.C.

When you want to move a page, you should always use the move button at the top of the page, rather than copying and pasting. Otherwise, the history of the article is split between two pages. I've merged the histories together now, but this is just a heads up for the future! — sjorford++ 09:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Hiya. As I recall, I did this because someone had already set up The New Saints F.C. and made it a re-direct page. I didn't think you could use move to move a page to a name that already existed. Could you let me know what the procedure is to move a page under these circumstances, so I know for the future? Thanks for the heads-up, and apologies for any trouble caused..... ChrisTheDude 09:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, you can move a page over an existing redirect, but only if (a) the redirect points to the page you're trying to move, and (b) the redirect has only one line in its history. Otherwise an administrator needs to delete it first. If you do want to move a page over a redirect, and find that it won't let you, it should be listed on Wikipedia:Requested moves — this was originally set up to deal with moves that need discussing first, but now deals with obstructed moves as well. If it's obvious and clearly uncontroversial an administrator will quite often do a speedy move. Alternatively you could post a note to WikiProject Football, and somebody will probably pick it up. (Also, it's no trouble really — I just like to keep things properly neat and tidy :) — sjorford++ 11:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tommy's Troubles

I'm guessing you were a bit of a fan of that particular strip, then? ;-) Nice article to start with, there, it's just a shame that so little online information exists about these strips, so barely any references can be included in the articles.

I'd be tempted to set up a WikiProject for "Football comics", to try and organise all this work, but I'm not sure there'd be enough people around who'd be interested in contributing! I may look into it, though. One or two of the other strips are probably worth their own entries, as are comics like Scorcher. If I can get hold of some more White/Mitchell-era ROTR issues off eBay, then maybe some articles on the likes of Playmaker and Goalmouth could be forthcoming, not to mention trying to get some ROTR monthly issues to help fill out that sorely-lacking info... Seb Patrick 13:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 853 issues

I'm guessing that that information came from the Comic Book Price Guide that you listed under "sources"... is there any chance you have a precise page number with that information on it, so that we can put an inline citation into the article? Seb Patrick 08:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll have a look when I get home tonight - should be able to get the ISBN then as well.... ChrisTheDude 08:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ROTR FA

I've taken the plunge and nominated ROTR for Featured status! No idea how it'll do, but I think we've worked it up to a decent state, so it'll be interesting to see what comments it attracts. Fingers crossed! Seb Patrick 15:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The new FAR/FARC process

Hi Chris

I noticed your excellent contributions to Roy of the Rovers on the FAC page, and wondered whether you'd be interested in dropping into WP:FAR occasionally (or often) to encourage, prod, critique, and—when the crunch comes—to declare "Keep" or "Remove". You seem to be oriented towards certain aspects of popular culture and ?perhaps sport.

The new FAR process is now being swamped with nominations (currently 23 in FAR and 13 in FARC), and the four or five regulars are finding it difficult to service the needs of such a large process. The ideal is to encourage the guardians of the many substandard FAs to fix them; sometimes this happens, but all too often, a nomination is met with disinterest by those you'd have thought would be keen.

The contribution of more good reviewers there, particularly those who are focused on good writing, would have a powerful impact on the FA culture in WP.

Tony 08:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Tony
Thanks for the message, and if you feel I'm up to the task, I'll certainly stop by. Up to now I think I'd been a bit wary of sticking my oar into things like FAR, AfD, etc as I still felt like a bit of a new/low standard Wikipedian and didn't want to step on any toes, but I'd certainly be more than happy to help out!!!! ChrisTheDude 08:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Pleasure of your company?

Are you coming to The Den tonight? Cheers,Lion King 15:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

  • 'Fraid not dude, as I live oop north I'd have needed to take the afternoon off work to get down there in time for the match, and my boss wouldn't let me. Ho hum, sounds like he did me a favour though :-) ChrisTheDude 06:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
OOP NORTH??? God, the Sadism of some employers know no bounds! I thought you were still in the Garden of England - luvley innit?. My Sister in law lives in Marden, we visit at least twice a week. Your mob played well if it's any consolation, should have been a replay. My wife says you don't look like a Div, she says you look like a "dear little lad"! Cas is a really nice bloke, and was always aware of who really paid his wages, not in the least pretentious, unlike Judas. Blimey, I've typed yer screen off! Watch out for flying ferrets! Be lucky, Lion King 11:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An FAC

In case you've got some time to glance over it, I've got (video game music composer) Frank Klepacki sitting in FAC. I blew a tire from working on it seven or eight hours yesterday, so my strategic distance is toast. I'll probably do some kind of hardcopy or reference-less copyediting today, but I'm asking for assistance on a few talk pages just in case. Thanks for considering. --Zeality 15:35, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] question

hi. why gillingham is in poor financial situation? Superzohar 09:20, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Thanks for contacting me!

Yeah, I was trying to get all of the divisions divided into a promotion relegation table, which shows directly which league they go into if a team from a specific league is promoted or relegated. Thanks! (Pieboyjr 13:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] FA Cup 2006-07

Chris - well done on the table idea. Should look really smart once it's finished =)

Just as a FYI - the whole article is to be shipped and moved to a dedicated Qualifying article once the First Round Proper begins - the new destination is in the talk page.

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PAEEK

your comment: FWIW Cowes Sports don't play amateur football in level 17 Isle of Wight Saturday Football League (3rd division), they are in the Wessex League Premier Division, which is level 9 ChrisTheDude 10:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FA Cup tables

Heh - well done on finishing the tables. I think this could be a perfect model for next year, so hopefully this will begin the tradition. Now...what to do now? doktorb wordsdeeds 14:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jepson on List of English Football League managers by date of appointment

Hi Chris. As you may be aware, I just created List of English Football League managers by date of appointment. I have the refs pretty much sorted, but one of things I'm missing is a permamnent date for Jepson's appointment. I notice further up on this page there's a bit of indecision about an announcement, I was just wondering if there ever was one? HornetMike 17:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Baffling isn't it? I did spend quite a while looking for a permanent thing on the BBC and on Google. Maybe they've never bothered to confirm it and he's still caretaker boss?! HornetMike 22:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Searching on the BBC website, this is the probably the closest I can find to a permanent appointment. Is that the bizarre Scally statement you were referring to? HornetMike
Great, thanks. I'll build something on it. Cheers, HornetMike 21:26, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Jermaine Jenas

The bit about his gran asking him to inform commentators about how to pronounce his surname is actually true. I dunno if you remember when he 1st joined Newcastle everyone called him Jenas (Jen-as) but his family pronounce it JEnas (Jean-as), so this is why all the commentators changed. (a bit like when the learned how to pronounce Kuyt) Anyway just thought let you know. I can't be bothered at moment to put it back up but if I do, it is because its true.

[edit] "Do not add Thomas and Friends" comment on CBeebies list

What an excellent idea. I wish I'd thought of it. Nice one. Tonywalton  | Talk 21:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CBeebies songs

I wonder if the CBeebies article could do with a section on the "fixed" songs, something like User:Tonywalton/CBeebies songs (which needs work, hence it's being a subpage at the moment!) What do you think? Tonywalton  | Talk 12:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Ava/Eva: Oops. I knew that (blush). Re the segmentation yes, it was divided into (I guess) five two-hour segments plus the Bedtime Hour (At a guess the 6am - 8am slot was unthemed). The song was something like:
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday Friday,
Saturday, Sunday, what's the day?
(repeat)
You can catch a bus on a CBeebies day,
You can play with us on a CBeebies day,
You can play on your own or have a friend to stay
On a wonderful CBeebies day
(Monday, Tuesday, etc)

(I forget the rest, probably thankfully!)

As I recall each presenter of the five had their own "room", which was colour-themed. Sid: green, Pui: red (possibly a Po hangover!), Chris: blue, Nicole: orange and Sue: pink. Each segment was, as I said, themed: Chris: music (for instance the dreadful Zingalong, which I can't bring myself to write an article about as NPOV does have its limits), Sid: making and building, Nicole: animals. I forget Pui's and Sue's themes. Come to thnk of it, if I can recall any more this should be in the article itself, not in "Songs". This is possibly where the concept of "core presenters" came from, I suppose (though that's just OR on my part). I think I'll go ahead with the Songs bit and ask on the talkpage if anyone else remembers this stuff. Tonywalton  | Talk 13:19, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Excuse me for interrupting you, where may I see the notability of a football club or non-professional football league like Skitfrith AFC (Spelling mistake possible) Rakuten06 00:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Whitnap F.C.

Saw you rightfully prodded that article. The editor who created it also created several more [1], but my somewhat limited knowledge of lower level football is hampering me. Do you want to take a look at them and see if any need to be kept? Thanks. One Night In Hackney 09:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Didn't think there would be anything worth salvaging, but wasn't sure of the notability of minor leagues 30+ years ago. One Night In Hackney 12:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ford Sporting League

Hi Chris,

Quite a while ago you made some points on the talk page for the Ford Sporting League. I've just recently made an addition and a couple of smaller edits to this article, and thought I might try and answer these concerns.

Hi Chris,

Quite a while ago you made some points on the talk page for the Ford Sporting League. I've just recently made an addition and a couple of smaller edits to this article, and thought I might try and answer these concerns.

  1. You say "in addition to the standard practice of awarding points for goals scored - this is not "standard practice" in English football at all... I have corrected this and stated what the points system was.
  2. You say "The Football League itself, however, turned down an offer of £600,000 to sponsor its final" - what final would that be then? The Football League does not have a "final"..... I think someone else had already dealt with this and clarified that it was the League Cup final that was being referred to.
  3. You say Also, this article could do with being expanded to clarify the nature of this competition - was it a reserves/youth league? If it was a first team competition, how did it fit in with the clubs' existing football league programme? Was it a summer tournament? Some clarification is definitely needed...... This is probably the most important of your concerns, and I must admit, it has somewhat flummoxed me, in spite of my having looked up various sources on the competition. It was certainly a senior (rather than a reserve or youth) competition, but I can find no record of matches being played for it, so my guess is that no additional matches were played for the competition, but rather points were derived from existing league fixtures- but to be honest, this is just a guess. I really don't know. If you can ever find out what the situation was really, I'd really love to know!

Robotforaday 16:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Green quarters for football kit

Green quarters are now available for the football kit. Template:Football kit/pattern list Wiggy! 03:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AC Olympia Football Club

Hi Chris

You are spot on regarding the notable ex-players on my article. Whilst none of these players went on to play professional, they all have a great reputation with the club and within the local community. Two of these players have unique claim to fames. Andy Trueman played against Wimbledon 2 months after the won the FA Cup in a friendly against Shanklin FC, and Allan Cairns, dropped Prince William, from the St Andrew University football team.

I understand that my article (AC Olympia Football Club) is marked for deletion because we play at a low level of the national pyramid system. What do we have to do to keep this article on-line. We are a well known club in our County, and we are looking to expand and introduce youth sides. As you will see from the clubs official website, we have received over 5000 hits.Acoly 23:22, 21 January 2007

[edit] AfD accident

Thanks for that - very embarrassing! XD Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 10:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Midanbury F.C.

Help! I've proposed the article Midanbury F.C. for deletion as its a re-creation of an article that was deleted previously, but I'm in a complete muddle about how to get it on to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football page. As you've done this before, can you help?

You may care to note that the originator of this article has created/re-created several more relating to non-notable football clubs, many of which were also deleted in November. If you look at the User's contributions page[2], you'll see what I mean.

Sorry to burden you with this, but although I'm relatively up to scratch on creating and editing articles, the finer points of deletion still confuse me. Thanks. Daemonic Kangaroo 16:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] And It's Arsenal Afd

You recently !voted in this Afd. I've just seen one of the other prods was contested, for We all follow the Arsenal and have included it in the Afd and would welcome further comment. Thanks. One Night In Hackney 21:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World Cup 2022

(counts on fingers) Oh yeah...three times four years and all that. Whoops..... =P doktorb wordsdeeds 10:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Weston-super-Mare grounds question - response

Chris - I think the old ground was called Woodspring Park, and the new one Woodspring Stadium, but I've always just known both as Winterstoke Road! The references to the ground (car park, stands) etc. in the main club article also refer to the old ground, not the current one. - fchd 09:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Cheers Richard, I'll clear that all up when I finish working on the article at lunchtime..... ChrisTheDude 09:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Salisbury City F.C.

Congrats on the improvements on this page - as an occasional follower of their results (mainly because Nick Holmes was one of my favourite players at Southampton), I've often wanted to expand their history, but have always found other things to distract me.

If you want to take this further, I understand that a history of the club will be published this summer. Perhaps I should splash out and buy a copy, and then expand the club's article even more. Anyway, I guess I had better do some work! Give yourself a pat on the back. Best wishes. Daemonic Kangaroo 08:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harrow Borough

Just some notes as we are both working on the boro page.

  • I'll add back in the manager bit not forgetting to say that 1985 saw him retire.
  • They were offered promotion twice as back then the top team wasn't automatically promoted. Ground regulation rules meant that you had to be 'invited' to join the conference league and not being top didn't stop them inviting you.

Thanks for your editing work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harrow Red (talk • contribs) 18:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] fan's/fans'

On the Guylain Ndumbu-Nsungu page. How embarrassing: I went over that distinction with my class of 8/9 year olds yesterday! Kevin McE 08:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Regarding notability of Football (soccer) players

Hi, seeing you have been involved in previous Afd debates I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 17:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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