User talk:Chrbartolf

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Introduction:

My name is Christian Bartolf. Here you find my websites: http://home.snafu.de/mkgandhi (Gandhi Information Center) http://www.themanifesto.info (Manifesto against conscription and the military system) http://home.snafu.de/kdv (counsellor of conscientious objectors) My email addresses are: bartolf@snafu.de mkgandhi@snafu.de kdv@snafu.de More info about me you find on the wikipedia website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bartolf Please feel free to contact me! I logged in only on 9 January 2007. That is why I am new to this great Wikipedia cosmos. Thank you! Christian Bartolf my postal address: Zinzendorfstr. 8, 10555 Berlin, Germany (European Union), tel/fax: +49-30-39102806 9 January 2007

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[edit] Manifesto links

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did in Conscientious objection throughout the world. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Accurizer 12:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure, Accurizer, thank you for your good advice, now I contributed to the talk pages instead. But when will be the time to add the links on the site? Is there any routine? Best wishes to you, Chrbartolf 13:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Chrbartolf

Hi Chrbartolf, take a look at Wikipedia:External links for guidance on this topic. I think it will answer your questions. Regards, Accurizer 14:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Accurizer, but I do not see - after reading the guide - any reason why there should not be a link "Nonviolence" and "Pacifism" to such an outstanding Manifesto http://www.themanifesto.info (Manifesto against conscription and the military system). Chrbartolf 20:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)Chrbartolf

Our guidelines ask that you do not place links on the article itself, put add them to the talk page for other editors to asses. I see that you have chosen to interpret that as license to place your link on the article so long as you left a message on the talk page. This is not appropriate and is still considered spamming. Instead of promoting external websites please consider adding content verified by reliable sources to our articles. -- Siobhan Hansa 14:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

The list of signatories should be sufficient proof that this document deserves to be added as external link to many wikipedia articles. Not to ignore the document! See http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Manifesto_Against_Conscription_and_the_Military_System Chrbartolf 20:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)Chrbartolf

It's not. We're an encyclopedia, not a collection of the "Amazing but True!". How has this had an impact on the world? Who talks about it or refers to it? What newspapers have written about? What schools include it as a part of their curriculum? These are the sorts of things that might indicate it's important. -- Siobhan Hansa 20:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

That's too narrow, even if no one had referred to it up to now, you should see the list of signatories, and ask yourself why you do no want to have it mentioned in the resp. encyclopedia articles! Chrbartolf 11:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)Chrbartolf

You may consider it too narrow, but the Wikipedia community has found this to be an acceptable general standard. In this specific case you do not appear to have any support from other editors and so the general standard applies. Please stop. If you continue spamming you will be blocked from editing. -- Siobhan Hansa 12:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Now what would you propose with respect to external links to the Manifesto - none? Chrbartolf 19:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)Chrbartolf

I propose you follow our guidelines as with the link to your website. Since you have a conflict of interest you should be proposing the addition on the talk page and letting editors who regularly add to each article decide whether it is appropriate or not. We are building a GFDL encyclopedia, and additions of appropriate content in accordance with our guidelines are welcome. But we are not a resource for you to promote your message. This is your last warning. If you spam Wikipedia again you will be blocked from editing. -- Siobhan Hansa 20:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Of course, the info is common interest to the wikipedia encyclopedia readers. I am far from promoting my message which I would do otherwise ... Chrbartolf 07:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)Chrbartolf