Talk:Christopher Chacon

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This article seems to suggest that "O.S.I.R" is an absolute certainty, rather than just a fairly popular conspiracy theory. - The O.S.I.R. "IS" an absolute certainty. Firstly, the agency was listed as a California Corporation from 1990 through 2000. Secondly, NBC did a network TV news feature on the organization that included visiting it's headquarters (I have a VHS copy of this news story). Several other news and documentary organizations also visited the agency and did feature stories on the group, including National Geographic Explorer and Unsolved Mysteries. Why is it so hard for some to grasp the existence of this group? It's almost like living in a complete state of denial is preferred over facts. While I do consider myself to be a general skeptic, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the O.S.I.R. was a real organization.

Does this really fit in with wikipedia's principles? - Wikipedia needs to catch up and realize that the O.S.I.R. was a real actual agency and update their files.

Perhaps a npov article on O.S.I.R. is needed...

Jesus! You consider this tripe to be NPOV?!

• "is considered one of the world's foremost experts and authorities on paranormal and supernatural phenomena, anomalies, metaphysics and the occult" -- Considered by whom?

- I'll tell you by whom; the Society of Scientific Exploration, the American Society of Psychical Research and the Skeptics Society, just to name a few. Additionally, this status has been recognized by countless journalists in TV interviews, including "Eye to Eye with Connie Chung", "Tom Snyder Show" and "Larry King Live".

• "an acclaimed writer, director and executive producer for television, film, theatre and live-event attractions, as well as an author and performance artist" -- Acclaimed by whom? And wouldn't the other credits kind of give away the fake nature of his supposed expertise in the OSIR crap?

- He has been acclaimed by the Writers Guild of America, the Canadian Writers Guild, The Producers Guild of America and the Latin International Film Institute. And why on earth would his entertainment credits give away anything about his scientific research expertise? Are you stating that no one is capable of holding two jobs or of having previous experience? Michael Crichton is an accomplished writer, does that mean his degrees and years of medical training must have been faked? Again, the argument discrediting his varied expertise makes no sense whatsoever.

• "the only legitimate scientific organization in the world that scientifically investigates and researches all types of anomalous phenomena" -- Say what?! Since when does an organisation that does not exist become "legitimate"? (If you choose to, you know, prove this organisation's existence, I'll remove the "that does not exist" part... but still leave open the question of "only legitimate".)

- As previously stated, the question of the organization's existence should be dismissed as conspiracy theory spinning. There is NO question that the organization existed according to California state records, as well as countless TV news/documentary shows that featured the organization and it's researchers in action. As to the use of "legitimate", while I find it hard for any group that investigates paranormal phenomena to be considered as legitimate, the O.S.I.R. was one of the few organizations recognized by the American Association for the Advancement of Sciences and the Center for Science Education for applying "scientific methodologies" to assess anomalous phenomena. Several groups, including the Skeptic Society, applauded the group as conducting "legitimate" scientific analysis, unlike other fringe groups using psuedo sciences. Based on what I've read and seen, this group is the only group that comes even close to earning the "legitimate" claim for investigating the paranormal.

• "He was involved with countless international expeditions and explorations" -- Name one. With supporting documentation.

- Based on his "Unsolved Mystery" and "Sightings" episodes, hundreds upon hundreds of cases investigating phenomena were noted in over 40 countries. Since the cases he investigated with the O.S.I.R. were confidential, he was unable to disclose documentation per the client/subject privacy privelege. I can safely state that based on the cases featured on his many TV appearances, I counted 67 cases of various paranormal phenomena. Another website paranormal researcher documented 193 cases featured on various TV shows/documentaries.

And that's just for starters. Your whole article reeks of a very bad practical joke; Wiki-crapping, in short. --72.57.88.158 07:51, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

- Your whole gripe about this information on Chacon almost seems to appear vindictive. You argue about not having the facts to support the statements in the article, yet it is you who has made arguments that were inaccurate and based on complete inaccuracies. If you have a personal issue with Chacon, you should try and contact him directly to air your grievances, rather then subject Wikipedia and those of us who use it to sensless rants and false accusations of legitimacy.