Talk:Christianity in China

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[edit] Chinese religions

I'm not sure I understand the statement; "Today, the Chinese language typically divides Christians into two groups, members of Jidu jiao, (literally, Christianity) Protestantism, and members of Tianzhu jiao (literally "Lord of Heaven" religion), Catholicism (see Protestantism in China and Catholicism in China.)" This seems to read that there are three divisions - Jidu jiao, Tianhu jiao and Catholisism. Anyone care to elaboborate or clarify?

• Why do we not name the people instead the religion, it should read Assyrian members of "Church of the East" not European or Middle-Eastern christian. This has to stop, name the People that spread christ message by thier real name, "Assyrian" belonging to the Church of the East.

--Esarhaddon 16:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

• Guys I suggest for those of who have not read the book By foot to China to read it.

Here is a free copy on Assyrian International News Agency website. http://www.aina.org/books/bftc/bftc.pdf

Also for more books on Asyrian http://www.aina.org/books.html

--Esarhaddon 16:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Should this be split into two articles, one featuring the history of Christianity in China, and another on Christianity in the present day? Ultimately, this should definitely be done, with the history allowed to grow separately but summarized in the "contemporary" page. ~ Dpr 02:01, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Should Chinese house church also be the main article for information on "the Chinese underground church(es)" or should we create a different article? Dpr 05:32, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree.Martianlostinspace 23:18, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Nestorianism" in China

Should "Nestorianism in China" be properly called by some other name? Information on the Assyrian Church of the East suggests that the so-called "Nestorianism" in China was not actually Nestorianism. --Dpr 03:10, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

It's a fair designation as that's what Westerners identify them as. A better term might be Syriac Christianity,or Assyrian but that would be a project needing to coordinate across lots of wikipedia articles to get the terminology changed. Minguo 14:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Understatement

If you have read Brother Yun's book, the Heavenly Man, you get a very different perspective of the torture and persecution Chinese Christians endure, I feel it is highly unlikely that this is all hoax, and that it deserves some serious emphasis in this article... even if it is regarded as "claimed". I feel it is understated. Any other opinions? Please contact me. I don't want to make huge edits without opinion. Martianlostinspace 23:18, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken Links

I think that the {Asia in topic|Christianity in} at the bottm should be removed due to too many broken links being prevenlent.Wikkany Lion 06:56, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Most famous chinese missionary'

I'm not sure this section should be included: a; it's out of place within the article structure b; it's badly written c; it reads like a blatant plug for the book! Anyone?Wsbhopkin 22:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] http://www.yutopian.com/religion/

This web site talks about Christianity in China.-Agoodperson 14:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lists of missionaries

These unweildy lists should be made into separate articles, as they are duplicated in several places and thus too difficult to maintain. As it stands, the list of Protestant missionaries in China in the Christianity in China article is a conglomeration of a (yet to be created) List of Protestant missionaries in China and the (newly created) List of China Inland Mission missionaries in China. A tidyup is required. See Talk:Hudson Taylor#List of Protestant missionaries in China for related discussion. DFH 20:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The proposed list has since been created by Brian0324. Thanks. DFH 18:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islamic Links

While the link to Islam in China may be relevant, (I know there is/was a link to this article there.) why is there link to Muslim Chinese Martial Arts? What relevance is that? Minguo 16:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the link to martial arts and have moved some other links around. I think a few more could be removed, like the link to Religion in Soviet Union.Minguo 21:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Estimated numbers

The lead estimates that between 40 to 65 million christians exist in china. Now, not to split hairs here, but while it is true that one study estimates 40 million and another 65 million, that by no means indicates that there are an estimated between 40 and 65 million christians in China. That statement implies that there is a single study arguing for between the two numbers with such a margin of error. Stringing two numbers together like that to make one estimate is pressing the boarders of OR. Thanatosimii 05:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thus, it says estimated. Nobody can give you the exact number. Statistics is not 100% accurate. For instance, nobody can even tell what the exact U.S. population is right now. In other words, statistics is meant to give you somewhat of a "rough idea". Cheers. Heilme 05:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but that's not the point. This is currently a WP:OR#Unpublished_synthesis_of_published_material violation. You can't cite two numbers which are true but say that that's the range. Thanatosimii 06:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fastest Growing???

Where do you get statisitics to back up the claims that Chrisitanity is China's fastest growing religion? What about Falun Gong? Mike Young 15:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)