Talk:Christian existentialism

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Kierkegaards writting is essentially divided into several pieces. The left hand (concealed) which he puplished through psydonyms, and alter-egos to ensure that no one would know the real authour, and the right hand, which was sermons puplished in his own name. What is worth noticing is that he in these sermons discussed the themes of the book. Together with this, he also made extensive journals, in which he explains his ideas even further. His idea with identifying the life spheres of human existence OUTSIDE CHRIST (meaning, this does not cover all people, only people who are not christians) comes from his main thought that people must be met where they are. In order to meet people where they are, first you must find out where they are, after which he came up with the spheres of human existance outside of christ. The religious sphere does not include the christian, as Kierkegaard clearly state that this sphere must be brought to the choice (the moment) in which the person can either choose to focus on the religious, or to embrace God, and develope a personal relationsship with him, thus solving the crisis of this sphere. Therefore the current wikipedia article is actually incorrect saying that only Abraham and the virgin mary can ever come to this sphere, as this sphere according to Kierkegaard is not the optimal sphere. THe optimal according to Kierkegaard is to have a personal relationsship with God.

It is true that the spheres are placed in the order mentioned, but only because it is the maturing process most people goes through. According to Kierkegaard it is even possible to skip stages, depending on how you deal with the crisis which is (impossible to avoid).

Sincerely


[edit] Tillich Reference

Should Tillich really be referred to as an American theologian? While he became famous for his writings at Union Theological, Tillich was German and didn't move to the States until he was in his 40s. The Dark 14:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Bible as an Existential Writing

To those not immediately familiar with Christianity or Existentialism it might seem a little strange to have an article combining the two. (Why not Basketball existentialism or Christian Donut-baking, etc). I trust the passages I've summarized will help the reader get a sense of how both Kierkegaard and the Bible use irony to get the attention of the reader. More similarities could probably be made other than the indirect communication aspect. For example, both Kierkegaard and the Bible demand seriousness. (In fact, SK says in the Sickness Unto Death, "Christianity is seriousness"). But I think this is suffecient for now to make the point. --The burning bush 18:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Original Research

I'm not sure about the basis for the "Original Research" warning that got added. I added four references, so hopefully no one will think I am just pulling this out of thin air. Could I persuade the concerned wikipedian to address their reservations specifically? I could be persuaded to see how the examples I provided are arbitrary (I could have picked others), but the points I made are well-documented and NPOV (which is of great importance to wikipedia, but of little importance to God who is totally POV in all His views). Please feel free to express your concerns here. I promise I won't bite anyone's head off! --The burning bush 00:41, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revert removing association between existentialism and the Bible

Someone deleted several sections here without discussing it. I am inclined to believe it is someone fairly unaquainted with Christianity and existentialism because they removed the See Also to Religious Love but left the See Also to Christian Anarchism. What does existentialism or Christianity have to do with anarchism? Also, there were some great references concerning SK that got removed below. I maintained this person's decision to keep the blogs references out, because it's probably not wikipolicy. I do not think an association of the Bible texts and existentialism is outside the scope of this article. If you disagree with me on this, please address it here in the talk section.--The burning bush 02:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)