Talk:Christian X of Denmark

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what Christian x, King of Denmark do to become such a brave leader?

[edit] Rewrite project.

There are apparently some mistakes in my summary of the Easter Crisis of 1920, particularly relating to the disposition of Zahle's government at the end of the crisis. I'm trying to find a source that clearly explains the process at this time. User:Tomlillis 14th October

If you read Danish, the best book is probably Tage Kaarsted's "Påskekrisen 1920". --Valentinian 16:49, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Is there a source for the assertion that the star of David story is apocryphal? Durova 18:06, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

For one thing, that the Star of David was never introduced in Denmark. Two, no Danish history books takes this story serious. The Danish Jews were arrested by the Nazis following the collapse of the coorporation between the German and Danish governments. Danish governments had - until then - succesfully avoided the introduction of the Yellow Star. When the government resigned and the Germans reigned supreme, they simply went straight to the arrestment phase. Regards. --Valentinian 00:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

This page contains more information: http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/denmark.htm Valentinian ^(talk) 09:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I found nothing on that page now. But I too am curious on this note- the way I've heard the story is the star of David wasn't used in Denmark because of the King's actions in refusing to wear the star, followed by copycats in the populace. This would not disagree with the main article, which states that the star was not used in Denmark, but then uses it as a justification for the story being apocryphal.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Abdul Muhib (talk • contribs).

(resetting indent). Drat, somebody must have shut it down. You might be interested in the article about the German Occupation of Denmark. The reason the Danish Jews were never forced to wear the Yellow Star was that the Danish government was officially allowed to stay in office by the Germans and that the introduction of the star was one of several issues the Danish cabinet refused seing them as a "red line". The most prominent other red lines were rejecting the introduction of the death penalty and refusing German military courts to sentence Danes, which the Germans demanded in case of saboteurs. The first source I can think of is Lidegaard, Bo (2003), Dansk Udenrigspolitiks Historie, IV, Copenhagen: Gyldendal, pp. 540-549 and 614-615. To quote a few passages: "The question about the status of the Danish Jews was raised by the Germans on numerous occations during the first years of the Occupation. The [Danish] government, however, categorically rejected any discussion citing that no "Jewish question" existed in Denmark. It was apparent for Berlin, that restraint on this issue was part of the price for a peaceful occupation [of Denmark] and the policy of cooperation. No Danish will to compromise existed here and the question was put aside as long as the Danish government carried out its obligations regarding the policy of cooperation." (p. 540, loose translation). "

and

"The casualty rates of the Danish Jews of no more than 100 out of 7,000 seems almost miraculous compared to the countries around us. Around 40 % Norway's 1,800 Jews perished, 75 % of Holland's, half of Hungary's. The rescue of the Danish Jews from the Holocaust has since then been seen as the Danes' finest hour (author's italics). It has been presented as the miraculous exception which seems so needed, in order to endure the thought about the Holocaust. The rescue has been seen as the result of a spontaneous humanitarian action from a population, which in disgust turned against the meaningless persecution of helpless fellow citizens, and whom - with heroic contempt for personal consequences - helped where it was most needed. (...) With time, this story has assumed mythical proportions including elements without any connection to the historical reality. One such is the well known story about King Christian X wearing his star of David on his morning rides in Copenhagen.[since the king didn't own such a star, the word "his" is inaccurate, but original in the text, V.] Another rumour claims that the king - questioned how he would reply should the hated star be introduced in Denmark - should have replied that in such case, he would have worn it as a badge of honour. (pages 545-546).

and

"The background for this sudden German interest in excluding the Danish Jews from the devellish ambitions of the Endlösung was consequently due to BOTH the fact, that Danish authorities and representatives at all levels [of government] from the very first hours of the Occupation consequently and without hesitation stated that the exclusion of the Jewish element of the population would make any further cooperation [with Germany] impossible AND the far-ranging Danish concessions given to the Germans on a number of other policy issues. In short, the entire system of the cooperation policy. The case of Denmark seems to suggest that, even within Nazi inner circles, and even in the last horrible year of both the war and genocide, an alternative political rationale could be established which also the Nazis took into some form of account." (p. 614) [The author alludes to the fact that the Danish Jews, when finally arrested, were generally not sent to the worst camps so many of those sent to camp also survived the war, V.] Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 09:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I forgot to mention it before; "Dansk Udenrigspolitiks Historie" means "The History of Danish Foreign Policy". It is a six volume work and the first attempt to write a complete chronological description of Danish foreign policy. It is commissioned by the publishers of the Great Danish Encyclopedia and it is considered to be a very solid piece of work. Regards. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 09:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

The article about the Yellow badge listed a few additional sources; [1] and a book about the Queen where HM describes this story as pretty but untrue. Regards. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 12:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iceland

Would it be worthwhile to add "King of Iceland" to the succession box? --Lemmy Kilmister--

Done. Valentinian ^(talk) 20:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)