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[edit] Happy New Year!

Happy new year and looking forward the flourishment of the wikiproject numismatics articles! - Timur lenk 10:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! =) It was unfortunate I couldn't be there helping the change about Slovenia's adoption of euro. Real life duty. But now I'm back! --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 非洲货币中央银行 List

Hi, I started a list of African central banks at my zh user page in case you are interested. It is also accessible from User:McTrixie interwiki. Feel free to edit it. Be bold. It will probably be a zh article within a week.....on a related note, are you productive in numismatics on zh? My Chinese language introduction to the list will be of stub quality. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 00:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kyrgyz Som

Sure, I'll transfer the images there, along with the Kyrgyz PD template. Cheers. Óðinn 06:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I took them from http://aes.iupui.edu/rwise/countries/kyrgyzstan.html, actually. But if you have better ones, by all means, please use them.Óðinn 06:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and you can use the PD-KG-exempt template at the Commons now. Óðinn 06:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Kindly refrain from using such smug tone with me. You could've just uploaded new versions of existing files with new descriptions, thus eliminating the necessity to re-link and delete anything. It's no one else's fault that you had to do all this "extra work". Óðinn 06:50, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

No offense taken. Since this were my first currency-related contributions, I am yet to grasp all the intricacies of the procedure :) So, I apologize for the confusion and whatever inconvenience that might have caused. I'm sure we can cooperate in the future. Cheers. Óðinn 07:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move of Banknotes of Switzerland

Hi, as you have probably seen, I have reverted your move of Banknotes of Switzerland to Paper money of the Swiss franc. Firstly, I think such move should be mentioned on the article's talk page beforehand (at least to mention that a discussion is going on somewhere else); secondly, Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style#Articles and categories about a country.27s coins and banknotes recommends the present title at the moment. Last but not least, the main article on the topic in Wikipedia is Banknote, and Paper money is a redirection to it —— it is probably good to be consistent. Schutz 14:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template space

I don’t what to nag you, but you did tell me to remind you:

IMHO, Template:Lists by country should be made into a horizontal nav box, just like Template:Lists of countries. In a crystal clear language, Lists by country is "list of x sorted by country", whereas Lists of countries is "list of countries by sorted by some criteria". I would like to make both of these like our numismatic navbox. I'm very interested in the development of template space. If I haven't done that in a few days, please remind me. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC) — Talk:List of circulating currencies

– Zntrip 01:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. To avoid flaming, I posted my intention at Template talk:Lists by country and the talk page of all its transcluding pages. Reverting war on template is nothing but waste of time. Please pitch in on the discussion if you wish. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 13:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My userpage

Oh, been meaning to ask you, can you look at my user page and see if you can find why my barnstars arn't lining up horizontally. They used to. I tried reverting why back, but didn't work. ?? Joe I 02:55, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I put a table around your barnstars. Unfortunately, it would look bad to the 10% people with 800 × 600 screen. If the background changes, additional style control around the barnstar will be required to match the color. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Never mind about the background color. If your background color changes, then it will look bad like my user page. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks, seemed simple enough.  :) Joe I 03:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clear

see Wikipedia:Useful styles. The "clear" style guarantees a previous image or floated table/infobox can't shove the template to the side. It's practically standard for infoboxes, but many creators of 'boxes don't actually know about this property, and so don't use. I spent a lot of time adding it to templates. Circeus 14:25, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian Numismatics

Hello ChoChoPK. Your suggestion is very good. Regrettably, I am not sure how to do this. I am very new to Wikipedia and my computer expertise is very limited. If you could tell me how to do this, I will gladly do this. I feel that your suggestion would lead to better efficiency. Maple Leaf 01:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award

I, Joe I,award this barnstar for all the updates, overview and copyediting you've done for WikiProject Numismatics. Joe I 22:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Huh huh =) thank you! I only wish that I can finish all the clean up so that I can move on to truly adding more content. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controlling huh?

I spent quite a bit of time creating the image header for the article on the Spanish peso, only to have you to delete it within 24 hours under the guise that is was "unencyclopedic" -- whatever that means. So what was so terrible about it? And when do such unilateral decisions on your part become vandalism? Maybe the best solution is to go through your contributions and give you some of your own medicine. Coinman62 03:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you have to go through the trouble. I, too, have experienced deletion challenges for things on which I spend a deal of time. But I managed to defend my claim. The deletion request on your image is still open for debate. You can explain why it should remain at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2007 January 16#Image:Pesos.jpg. I just think that an image with all plain text should be truly just text, but not in an image. There are many policies on Wikipedia, and people make deletion requests based on them. I quote from Wikipedia:Ownership of articles:

If you don't want your material to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it.

The same logic goes for deletion request. When you create something, you must be able to defend it. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Your position would be solid if you could cite to a Wikipedia rule which states that "an image with all plain text should be truly just text," as I can find nothing in Wikipedia's policies which state that. I also beg to differ that "editing mercilessly" is the same thing as deletion. Again, fair warning, I have already been going through your contributions and find that some of your images (direct scans of currency) might violate the laws of some jurisdictions. So just fair warning, what goes around comes around. Coinman62 20:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I have a reply at the image for deletion (IfD) page. Please give some examples of the images I uploaded that you believe are inappropriate? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Interesting discussion. Coinman62 is obviously angry with you, ChochoPK. I am an attorney, and just intending to be helpful, I looked at some of ChochoPK's images. A few include U.S. notes. I should call your attention to the federal laws of the United States. 18 U.S.C.A. § 474(a) states in part, "Whoever prints, photographs, or in any other manner makes or executes any engraving, photograph, print, or impression in the likeness of any such obligation or other security, or any part thereof . . . --Is guilty of a class B felony." Another part of the statute makes it clear that an "obligation or other security" includes currency and banknotes. Also 18 U.S.C.A. § 470 deals with foreign nationals and states, "A person who, outside the United States, engages in the act of-- . . . (2) making, dealing, or possessing any plate, stone, analog, digital, or electronic image, or other thing, or any part thereof, used to counterfeit such obligation or security if such act would constitute a violation of section 471, 473, or 474 if committed within the United States, shall be punished as is provided for the like offense within the United States." (U.S.C.A. stands for "United States Code Annotated." You kind find most of it on the Internet.) Bottom line, just be careful when scanning images of currency, banknotes, securities of the U.S. or anywhere else. Safeharbor8 16:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Chochopk: I have responded to your most recent entry on the deletions page. Coinman62 14:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colon sign correction

I like your meticulousness! Too bad the colon sign doesn't show on many computers. You do know that the cent sign is often used as a substitute. DBlomgren 13:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Currency unit stubs

I think it is brilliant idea to separate the currency units from the rest of the stub articles. It appears that you're going through this alphabetically. I just have one question. There are some at Category:Currency unit stubs in the A's and B's. Did you miss them? or you have something else in mind? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:43, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

No, it's just an artifact of being tired and doing it semi-randomly. I just started on the first page of money-stubs and picked out obvious ones. I will go back and do a more systematic sweep after the population of obvious ones declines. A2Kafir 13:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tzdiff-Europe

Those two maps you made are fantastic. I've always had the idea of doing something like this, but real life has prevented me from doing so. I fully support adding them to real articles without any reservation. Btw, have you thought about making a similar map for the world? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 16:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I have, indeed, been thinking about making time zone maps for other continents as well, but sadly I was unable to find quality worldwide digital data on secondary political boundaries. In Europe, time zones follow national borders, the data on which is much easier to find (still, the one I used had some errors), but on other continents several countries use more than one time zone. If you had access to such data (preferably including maritime borders), I would be happy to hear about it. · Naive cynic · 20:04, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Is it ARC GIS data file you're looking for? I might have some of those files that have secondary boundaries. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 02:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I should be able to use it. I'd be glad to take a look. (Sorry for delay, I was having a wikibreak.) · Naive cynic · 20:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hidden text in Wikipedia

Okay, Chochopk, I will take you up on your offer to help. Is there a code that editors can use to place hidden text on the edit page -- for the purpose of notifying other editors why I did something -- but which will remain hidden from view on the article page? I thought there is such a code, but I cannot find it in Wikipedia help. Thanks,Coinman62 14:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to "peso" article and "Spanish dollar" article

Thanks, Chochopk, for your advice on the hidden text. It worked great. A friend of mine is one of the most respected numismatists in the entire world, and I consulted with him today about the "peso" article and the "Spanish dollar." He offered quite a bit of assistance and suggested some resources. So I made some clarifications on those two pages, based upon his advice and what the published resources said. You might take a look at the changes and see if they are consistent with your knowledge of the two subjects. Coinman62 20:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I see that you uploaded Image:Carlos IV Coin2.jpg and at the same time update Image:Carlos IV Coin.jpg. Now that these two files are identical. I know this is a sensitive topic, but do you think one of them can be deleted? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Chochopk. Thanks for adjusting the boxes on the Spanish dollar article. Yes, I have been reading on Wikipedia how to delete the first image of Carlos IV coin.jpg -- I think you place a delete tag somewhere on the image file. The more recent upload of Carlos IV coin2.jpg is an improvement over the first. I tried to upload the second as an overwrite of the first. When I made the attempt, it seemed to upload and overwrite, but the page containing the image did not change to the new image. So I don't know what step that I left out. I must admit that I chuckled at your comment that this was "sensitive," but I don't mind a deletion if there was some improvement made. Thanks again. Coinman62 13:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Time-relative USD

I agree with the move of that content that you described. If you go to that site, it is a calculator where you can enter 1980 and 1.00, then enter a target equivalent year. The resulting web page will show the amount of money you needed in that year to have 1.00 of buying power (in the US) in 1980. You could do any two dates, not just 1980 and another year, but 1980 is traditionally used for comparisons of US Dollar worth, in my experience.Jerry lavoie 23:29, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

yes, you do have to manually do that for each year. Jerry lavoie 23:49, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use images aren't allowed in user pages

You will need to remove the image fair use image Image:Taichung City flag.gif from your user page. Rule #9 of the fair use rules doesn't allow them in the user namespace.

BTW: Your currency images are in the gray area. You might want to ask what to do about them at the policy portion of the Village Pump. Please let me know what they tell you or send me a link to the section that you ask in. Will (Talk - contribs) 01:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

They are on the top right of your user page. It is not whether you uploaded them; it's where you use them.

• Image:NT2000.gif
• Image:NT50.jpg

Will (Talk - contribs) 01:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cypriot Euro Coins

Thank you very much for your help in building up the article - Just to let you know the images I uploaded were taken directly from the Central Bank of Cyprus' website. I will also try to see If I can insert the missing 10 and 50 cents and also minimise the image of the 2 euro coins since it appears a little bit blurred on the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michalpe (talk • contribs) 09:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] In response to your question

Hi, thanks for the welcome. There was no reason to revert your edit. I just wanted to add the exchange rate for "MXN". Sorry about that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mauri.carrasco (talk • contribs) 01:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC) --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question regarding coin captions

Hi Chochopk. You surely must be a very nice person to have tolerated me and my questions. I have another one. On the page of Louis XIV of France [1], someone keeps changing my Latin transcription of the coin from italics to regular text. The Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting) states, “Wikipedia prefers italics for phrases in other languages and for isolated foreign words that do not yet have common use in the English language.” [2]. So originally, I italicized the Latin. (I should add that this is also a standard rule in English grammar.) Even though I quoted the WP Manual using hidden text, some Wikipedia editors (the most recent was "Wetman") have reverted the edit and changed it to smaller case, and he said that it was not a proper use of the Wikipedia rule because the coin was not itself italicized. (The explanation seemed unreasonable to me because you would hardly ever find a foreign language italicized in the original.) So I was wondering whether I was correct or am I wrong? If I am correct, what do you suggest? Is there someone in Wikipedia authority (such as an administrator) who can decide the issue? Perhaps this might explain some of my frustrations from a couple of weeks ago. Coinman62 14:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images of Australian banknotes

Hi,

Thanks you for providing clearer images. Can I ask you to identify the replaced image, and add

 {{subst:ncd|Image:Filename.png}}

to the old image page, where "Image:Filename.png" is the new name. This way, the admin can delete the old image and reduce clutter on Wikipedia. Thank you. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 23:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

OK... which files did you have in mind?? I have added my images to Commons, so not to the English Wikipedia. (Extra3 23:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC))

Oh, such as Image:1 dollar f.jpg and Image:Old aust one dollar note(front).JPG. I know that you uploaded the new images to commons. That is great. So there's no need to keep the copy on the English Wikipedia anymore. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 23:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

OK, not a problem. HOwever, I did not keep a record of any locally-based files, so I would not be able to remember any old file names other than looking @ a previous edit. Also, because the files have only recently (but honestly ;) been added to Commons, I would like to wait a little while, until they become 'approved', as it were. (Extra3 23:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Thanks

Chochopk, well, you really are a very nice person and quite an accomplished editor. The coin box and caption that you created are beautiful. A few days ago, you provided me with the code to create this style of box, but I had not realized that the separator will probably discourage some unnecessary edits. I submitted the edit containing your suggestion on the Louis XIV article. Many, many thanks. I am now feeling quite guilty for having thrown such a fit, but hopefully, you also now understand why I had become so frustrated. :-( Coinman62 02:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Half dollar v.s. 50 cent coin

Hi,

I notice 158.125.9.4 moved Half dollar to 50 cent coin. I'm wondering if it was you. IMHO, I think the old version is better. The reason is that not necessarily all the 50 cent are half dollar. Half euro is 50 cents. And and not all the half dollar is a coin. 50 Zimbabwean cents is a note. There exits a 50 cents article. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, I did merge the articles; the reason being, to have one article for the definition of a '50 cent coin', rather than several (it seemed as if there were many articles defining the same subject. Would it not be better to combine all articles under this one, as it is possible to make distinctions, as needed?? (e.e. 50 cents may refer to a Zimbabwean note etc. (158.125.9.4 02:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Jagex on RS

You asked why I deleted the Jagex link from the RS page. Disambiguation pages are navigation aids, and the only links on that page should be ones directly related to the letters "RS". The WP:MOSDAB gives some guidelines, the most applicable being that we try to link one link per line, and place it on the left. In this case, there's no need to link Jagex because we already link RuneScape, which is the link that is directly related to "RS". If you have more questions about why I made that edit, shoot. Have a good weekend! - grubber 05:45, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hungarian money

Hey ChoChopk. Infos on korona and pengo

[edit] Hungarian Korona (1st part)

• introduction: there are no exact dates for this. Own currencies of the states emerging on the ruins of the A-H Monarchy were introduced in a chaotic environment.
• 1918. oct. 30.: issue of a 200 korona temporary A-H banknote in Vienna
• 1918. nov. 7.-1919. feb. 8.: first banknotes printed in Budapest (under the Károlyi-government), in the beginning only 200 Kronen/korona notes. Printing plates came from Austria, slightly different serial number typeface related to Vienna issues; blank (white) reverse. In the beginnig there was no judiciary difference between these and the earlier A-H notes. These banknotes were called white money.
• 1919. apr. 11.: Austria called back white money printed in Vienna cause did not want to share the same money as the Hungarian Soviet Republic (exclamated: 1919. marc. 21.).
• 1919. apr. 25.: first issue (release into circulation) of white money printed under the Hungarian Soviet Republic. Same design as above, expect the reverse: it had wavy pattern. Devalvation related to the earlier (pre-1918) A-H issues (referred to as blue money).
• 1919. may 16.: the Hun. soviet government invested the Hungarian Postal Savings Bank with the powers of a central bank. It issued postal savings bank notes printed in its own press. These notes served as (low denomination) currency, and the same amount of A-H banknotes were put into deposit as issued as Postal savings note.
• 1919. june: to stop the devaluation of the white money the Hun. Soviet governemnt whithdrew the same amount of blue money as the issued white money. The circulation of blue money was prohibited and had to be deposited on bank accounts, and was soon handled - together with the white money issued during the Károlyi government (blank reverse) - as a foreign currency.

[edit] Treaty of Sain-Germaine, part IX, Article 206

1. Within two months of the coming into force of the present Treaty, each one of the States to which territory of the former Austro-Hungarian Monarchy is transferred, and each one of the States arising from the dismemberment of that Monarchy, including Austria and the present Hungary, shall, if it has not already done so, stamp with the stamp of its own Government the currency notes of the Austro-Hungarian Bank existing in its territory.

2. Within twelve months of the coming into force of the present Treaty, each one of the States to which territory of the former Austro-Hungarian Monarchy is transferred, and each one of the States arising from the dismemberment of that Monarchy, including Austria and the present Hungary, shall replace, as it may think fit, the stamped notes referred to above by its own or a new currency.

3. The Governments of such States as have already converted the currency notes of the Austro-Hungarian Bank by stamping or by the issue of their own or a new currency, and in carrying out this operation have withdrawn, without stamping them, a portion or all of the currency notes circulating in their territory, shall either stamp the notes so withdrawn or hold them at the disposal of the Reparation Commission.

4. Within fourteen months of the coming into force of the present Treaty, those Governments which have replaced notes of the bank by their own or new currency, in accordance with the provisions of this Article, shall transfer to the Reparation Commission all the notes, stamped or unstamped, of the bank which have been withdrawn in the course of this replacement.

5. All notes transferred to the Reparation Commission under the provisions of this Article shall be dealt with by that Commission in accordance with the provisions of the Annex hereto.

6. The Austro-Hungarian Bank shall be liquidated as from the day succeeding the day of the signature of this Treaty.

7. The liquidation shall be conducted by receivers specially appointed for that purpose by the Reparation Commission. In conducting the liquidation of the bank, the receivers shall follow the rules laid down in the Statutes or other valid instruments regulating the constitution of the bank, subject, however, to the special provisions of this Article. In the case of any doubt arising as to the interpretation of the rules concerning the liquidation of the bank, whether laid down in these Articles and Annexes or in the Statutes of the bank, the decision of the Reparation Commission or any arbitrator appointed by it for that purpose shall be final.

8. The currency notes issued by the bank subsequent to 27 October 1918 shall have a claim on the securities issued by the Austrian and Hungarian Governments, both former and existing, and deposited with the bank by those Governments as security for these notes, but they shall not have a claim on any other assets of the bank.

9. The currency notes issued by the bank on or prior to 27 October 1918, in so far as they are entitled to rank at all in conformity with this Article, shall all rank equally as claims against all the assets of the bank, other than the Austrian and Hungarian Government securities deposited as security for the various note issues.

10. The securities deposited by the Austrian and Hungarian Governments, both former and existing, with the bank as security for the currency notes issued on or prior to 27 October 1918, shall be cancelled in so far as they represent the notes converted in the territory of the former Austro-Hungarian Monarchy as it existed on 28 July 1914 by States to which territory of that Monarchy is transferred or by States arising from the dismemberment of that Monarchy, including Austria and the present Hungary.

11. The remainder of the securities deposited by the Austrian and Hungarian Governments, both former and existing, with the bank as security for the currency notes issued on or prior to 27 October 1918 shall be retained in force as security for, and in so far as they represent, the notes issued on or prior to 27 October 1918, which on 15 June 1919 were outside the limits of the former Austro-Hungarian Monarchy as it existed on 28 July 1914, that is to say, firstly, all notes of this description which are presented to the Reparation Commission in accordance with paragraph 4 of this Article, and secondly all notes of this description which may be held elsewhere and are presented to the receivers of the bank in accordance with the Annex hereto.

12. No claims on account of any other currency notes issued on or prior to 27 October 1918 shall rank either against the general assets of the bank or against the securities deposited by the Austrian and Hungarian Governments, both former and existing, as security for the notes, and any balance of such securities remaining after the amount of securities mentioned in paragraphs 10 and 11 has been calculated and deducted shall be cancelled.

13. All securities deposited by the Austrian and Hungarian Governments, both former and existing, with the bank as security for currency note issues and which are maintained in force shall be the obligations respectively of the Governments of Austria and the present Hungary only and not of any other States.

14. The holders of currency notes of the Austro-Hungarian Bank shall have no recourse against the Governments of Austria or the present Hungary or any other Government in respect of any loss which they may suffer as the result of the liquidation of the bank.

[edit] Hungarian korona (2nd part)

• 1918. nov. 16.: issue and immediate withdrawal of a 200 korona banknote in Budapest
• 1919. mar. 21.: planned date to begin overstamping A-H banknotes
• 1920. mar. 18.: beginning of overstamping to Hungarian korona
• 1921 may-june: issue of first Hungarian Korona treasury notes
• 1921. aug.: the State Notedepratment was invested with the rights of a note bank (central bank)
• 1924. june 24.: Founding of the Hungarian National Bank
• 1926. aug. 25.: a part of Hungarian Korona treasury notes was issued with a stamp showing the value in pengő. However, these were not consideres pengő banknotes, the aim was to alleviate transition.
• 1926. dec. 27.: Issue of the first pengő money
• 1926. dec. 31.: last day when korona was official currency

[edit] Hungarian pengő

• 1927. jan. 1.: The korona value is officially replaced by the pengő value.
• 1928. june 30.: withdrawal of last korona notes
• 1931. june. 30.: lapse of last korona notes
• 1946. jan. 1.: introduction of the adópengő
• 1946. july 31.: last day when pengő (and adópengő) was official

[edit] Hungarian forint

• 1946. aug. 1.: forint value replaces pengő value
• 1946. aug 15.: lapse of last pengő notes
• 1946. sep 30.: last day adópengő bills could be used as form of payment

[edit] Notes

Although the periods of the circulation of korona, pengő and forint overlap, the introduction and withdrawal is clearly enacted. So I suggest that korona was the currency of Hungary until 1926. dec. 31., pengő was the official currency between 1927. jan. 1. and 1946. julyí 31.; adópengő was a currency between 1946. jan. 1. and 1946. july 1. (however circulated only after the tax bills were issued); forint is the currency since 1946. aug. 1.

The beginning date of the Hungarian korona is tricky. In the treaty, 1918. oct 27. is mentioned as a special day, but it is also true, that there were banknotes issued after this date which circulation was not restricted to the - still varying - territory of Hungary. The first such notes were the white moneis, which were printed in Budapest, however some of the successor and occupying states overstamped these as well, so recognized these as a legal currency on their territory. So at least the year is sure: it was 1919, when a Hungarian korona was separated from the common money, but it was rather a (chaotic) process than a well organized "step" in the Hungarian money history.

Hope this helps. I am not here nowadays, have to work a lot. And when I have time, I rather translate articles for the Hungarian wiki. Any further question is welcome, just let me take my time to answer :-) Timur lenk 10:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Numismatics

Hi there. I took your advice and adjusted my titles to adhere to the manual of style. Canadian Silver Dollar is now Canadian silver dollar. By the way, the only reason I know so much about Canadian numismatics is because I am Canadian, hence the name Maple Leaf. Cheers Maple Leaf 16:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colombian peso

It looks like you're going to upload some images. Just a kind reminder, if you upload image to Commons, the same image can be used on Wikipedia of all languages. Thanks. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

The images are in Commons, I`m gonna use them in eswiki. Also, they are from another file in commons--ometzit<col> 01:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Ummmmmmm i had no idea that the currency infobox existed that would save me the whole afternoon i spend doing that table lol. but thnks for doing it (Ummmmmmmmm)--ometzit<col> 03:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Obviously you're an expert on Colombian matters. May I point you to Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style/Currency article. It has detail example and guide for currency articles. Your help is definitely appreciated. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ping!

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by David Kernow (talk • contribs) 20:58, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Featured article

Hey, is there any article amongst the currency articles which was a featured article? Which one do you think could be one? Maybe one of the Hungarian currencies could be developed into a featured article - or aat least a good article. If you think so, I'd need your help. You are the IT professional, I can get the needed info. I am waiting your opinion. Timur lenk 17:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

You can take a look at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Numismatic articles by quality statistics. There are links there by quality. I personally like €2 commemorative coins. I can help on formatting, layout, table, data organization, wikipedia policy, etc. But I'm not good at content, text, or writing. Wikipedia:Featured articles and Wikipedia:Featured article criteria may be good starting point for you. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 13:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {{Euro topics}}

Forgive me, but this template is awful. It is far too big, and with far too many topics to be a proper navigational aid. The only relevant section of it to the title is the first, the general topics related to the Euro and Eurozone. There should be seperate navigational templates for the coins (which there was before people took it upon themselves to alter), and for the various other currencies. I for one object to the article about the pound sterling (not the "British Pound" as it is incorrectly labelled) being classed as a "Euro related topic". Hammersfan 15/02/07, 18.10 GMT

• Contrary to the previous comment, I find the new template pretty useful, lot more than the earlier. It contains all relevant topics related to the euro as a currency. Although Britain is not a member of the monetary union, it is supposed to be, and th efar future aim for all EU members is to join the euro anyways. Timur lenk 20:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Please continue the discussion at Template talk:Euro topics. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 13:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of central banks

As an editor who has been so keen to improve the list, guess you'd perhaps be interested to take a look at user:Huaiwei's recent edits. :-) He insisted the Hong Kong Monetary Authority and the Monetary Authority of Macao to be listed under the People's Bank of China, and insisted to spell Macao in Monetary Authority of Macao different from its official name as according to the official website. — Instantnood 18:01, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[3] - Thanks. :-) — Instantnood 21:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian currency

Hi Chochopk. Thank you for the information regarding sources. With regards to the Canadian currency edits, I will check on it later this week and I will advise you as to whether the edits were accurate or not. Have a good day. Maple Leaf 16:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two dollars bill

I noticed you've used as an example of omitting the plural from the names of coins and banknotes "2 dollar bill". I agree that one hears this but I'm not convined it has any foundation in correct English, British or American. The Concise OED does not list dollar as having an irregular plural. In particular, I'm uncomfortable about applying this notion to examples such as eyrir/aurar without a good linguistic foundation. I know it's a bit pedantic but I have been thinking about this as I've been writing and I reckon we ought to decide what's right before we write too many more articles.
Dove1950 20:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Even though English is not my native language, I distinctly remember learning this one thing in school. "If a quantitative adjective phrase describes a noun, then the unit of this adjective phrase shall remain singular at all times." Examples include "5 year old kid" or "10 dollar bill". I also asked a few of my friends who are native English speakers, American though. I think this is the correct grammar, American or British. You said that you hear this all the time too. That is why I apply the same rule to the Icelandic currency. When I read our style guide, I interpret that as "use local form on the word, but use English grammar on the sentence". --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 21:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian currency follow-up

Hi Chochopk. I verified Canadian dollar and the facts about the penny in the coinage section were fairly accurate. I was able to locate source material to justify the comments. With regards to Canadian coinage, the claims about the fifty-cent coin in the Urban Legends section seems a little far fetched. Certain parts of the section have now been sourced appropriately while others are going to require citations. Maple Leaf 21:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Irish pound

Thanks for breaking the deadlock over this page. There's more to go in but perhaps you could suggest where to put information about the Irish banknotes issued between 1826 and 1928 denominated in sterling? I'd be happy to put them in this article but any other suggestions would be welcome.
Dove1950 23:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your support. Trust me when I say I understand your frustration. IMHO, I believe that info about the Irish (whole Ireland if I'm not mistaken) version of pound sterling banknotes between 1826 and 1928 is best placed at Banknotes of Ireland, in a new section perhaps. And a link from Banknotes of the pound sterling would be nice, perhaps a stub section. You can take a look at User:Chochopk/Template sandbox 1, which I ripped from http://www.irishpapermoney.com/in/intro1.html. But on second thought, I'd like to change the vertical flow to a horizontal flow. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Multiposting

Check out WP:MULTI -- multiposting, as you did here, isn't ideal. A great place to propose such a change to copyright templates would be on WP:VPR, since all of those posts on TFD will cause people to have to respond to you individually each time, or just post identical replies to your identical concerns, which is a waste of time. I would request that you remove identical postings, or merely refer people to a discussion that you might start on WP:VPR. Thanks so much! Gracenotes^T § 02:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, I will remove them in a minute. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you; and I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Gracenotes^T § 03:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belarusian currency

I checked with the national laws to make sure that currency was included in the copyright free zone. Yes, the currency is free of copyright. However, as one of the main editors on Belarusian topics, I really think the images serve a better purpose on the Commons and better to use a Commons category instead of one on English Wikipedia. Another thing, if the image exists at the Commons, I would really suggest not putting the copyright tag on the en.wikipedia display of the image. That will make it seem like the image is here, instead of the Commons. Thanks for your attention to this matter. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions to the denomination lineup of the United States dollar

10-25-50 seems as useful to me as 10-20-50, I don't see how one is better than the other. They both involve a step of 1:2 and a step of 1:2½. Though, admittedly, it is a peculiar historical vestige that we have 25 in coins, but 2 and 20 in bills. (Though there was once a $2½ gold coin)

Inflation is inevitable. Eventually, 10¢ will become the smallest unit of account. That will leave 25¢ in an awkward position. While that is a point, a similar problem arises with 10-20-50. Supposing that the half-dollar becomes more widely used, we'd have .01-.05.-.10-.25-.50 then .05-.10-.25-.50, then .25-.50, then .50. Under a 10-20-50 system, we'd have .01-.05.-.10-.20-.50; .05-.10-.20-.50; .10-.20-.50; .50 In both cases, a point arises where two coins have to dropped at the same time, and the value of the smallest coin jumps fivefold. The nickle and dime in a system like the present one, or the dime and "fifth" in yours. Replacing the quarter with a fifth would be an awkward transitional period, with two coins of such very similar value.

By the way, do you know that the presidential $1 coin is the first coin to have Arabic numeral? Incorrect, actually. A number of early US coins had numerals on them. For example, early 19th century dimes had "10 c." written on them.

I'd also suggest polymer instead of paper for banknotes. And perhaps a $200 or even $500 bill. Nik42 07:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

With 1-5-10-20-50, that leaves the freedom to have 10 cents as a smallest unit. But as you point out, since the American cash system is already on 25 cents, such transition may incur more cost than benefit.

Regarding Arabic numerals, if I change that to "...in modern times", would that be a correct statement? You probably want to change United States coinage because that's where I get the info from. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 19:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Steven Millhauser

Hello -- thanks for your cleanup of Steven Millhauser -- but I have a question. Won't taking away the piped LastName/First Name details on the various categories have the effect of mis-indexing this article (under S instead of under M)?

Rapotter 14:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, because of

{{DEFAULTSORT:Millhauser, Steven}}

all categories that contain Steven Millhauser will be sorted as "Millhauser, Steven". Just take a look at any of its category. =) --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization Issues

Hello - You may know me as the User who mistakenly capitalized a few articles within the last 12 hours. Thank you, and other established users, for aiding me in the ways of "Wikipedia specific English". I'm rather embarrassed by what I did, and did not know in the slightest that capitalizing nouns in a heading or title was unwelcomed here; These rules are somewhat new to me coming from an english background that capitalized almost every noun visible in a title or heading. Again, I thank you for understanding the circumstances of my alien doings, and for allowing me to see my mistakes so that I may not make them in the future.

Have a nice day, Megazodiac 21:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table help

Have you got any idea of what's wrong with User:Nightstallion/peacekeeping missions? —Nightstallion (?) 13:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

My edit on User:Nightstallion/peacekeeping missions did not solve the problem. This, this, and this edit fixed the problem. User:VolkovBot is the root cause, and someone has notified the bot owner. Thank you for trusting my ability with table. =) --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 20:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template check

Hey, i just added assesment functions to {{Electron}}, which I copied off numismaticnotice. Would you please take a look at it make sure I didn't screw anything up. :) Thanks Joe I 04:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

While I don't see any blatant problem on that template itself, something grave is concerning me. Copying and pasting code is a bad practice. This is probably not obvious to people who don't work at in a programming or software environment, but it's really the number 1 don't-do in this field. Let's say, for some reason in the future, we don't want yellow background for class B, then editors would have to change thousands of copied and pasted templates. Not only this process is time consuming, it is prone to human mistake. We should follow a {{navbox generic}}-{{Currencies of Africa}} model. Another "good" example is {{languageicon}}-{{zh icon}}. Bad examples include {{Money-stub}}-{{Coin-stub}}. But fixing this is completely out of the scope of 1 or 2 people. It seems that you're involved with multiple projects. Do you know where I should bring this up? Village pump? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the tip. You could try a few places to address this: Wikipedia:Template namespace, Wikipedia:Template messages, Wikipedia:Talk page templates, or the meta m:Help:Template. Good luck :) Joe I 06:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rarely-used banknotes (U.S.)

I work in middle- to low-end retail, as I have for over 30 years, and I can assure you that $50 and $100 bills are no longer rarely-used in the United States (to say nothing of the role of the US$100 as the tool for bulk transfers of hard currency worldwide). Please do not falsify this information based on an out-of-date impression. --Orange Mike 15:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

This discussion continues at Talk:United States dollar#Rarity of $50 bill. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 23:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {{Numismaticnotice}}

Hey, I just implemented Cat/List/Dab/Template parameters on the notice. But I tried appling the Cat to Category talk:Template-Class numismatic articles and it's asking for an importance. Can you get rid of that such as it does on NA class Talk:$? Thanks :) Joe I 02:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I would say only the list parameter would need an importance rating. Joe I 02:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

This discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics/Assessment. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 17:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template help request

Hi, I'm contacting you because you identify as a template expert, and I wonder if you could spare a few minutes to help me out with a law citation template I'm building at User:Sandstein/Cite swiss law. My problems are:

• The template allows for the name of the law to be provided in zero to four languages as the parameters en, de, fr and it. For every one of these parameters which is not provided, though, the template output produces a line break. Can this be prevented?
• The template requires a mandatory parameter, sr, which is the official number of the law. That number may include colons, e.g. 115.20.5, but the URL of the law's page on the government server to which the template should link replaces these colons with underscores, e.g. 115_20_5. Is there a way to automatically substitute colons and underscores with one another, so that the number is displayed properly with colons in the template output, but features underscores when used as a parameter in the URL that it links to?

Any help through comments or edits to the template would be much appreciated. Sandstein 07:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I fixed the new line issue. About string substitution, I tried meta:StringFunctions##replace:, but only realized the meta page says "These functions are currently not installed at the Wikimedia projects." after failing. Cheers. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Sandstein 07:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] German currency capitalization

Hi Chochopk, thanks for your comment on my talk-page regading the capitalization survey on the German Mark talk-page. As I didn't take part in the vote on August, and I think I do have some good arguments, I put the move back into discussion. I would like to hear your point of view on that talk-page (here) as well. Cheers, MikeZ 13:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WatchlistBot's mistake

Thanks for catching that. How did you find it? It turns out this text substitution is tricky business, since I have to match all the possible existing situations. I did check them, but they still appear correct with two copies of "class" (to me anyway). I think I've got this bug fixed, and think I've checked to see if it happened again in all the Templates, but I didn't find any (did you check them all?) Ingrid 15:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't go through all the changes the bot did. I only looked at the ones on my watch list. After all, as you said, the second class overrides the first one, so the mistake is rather harmless. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 15:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eliel Saarinen

I took him off the numismatics exclusion list, since he designed some Finnish money (he's in Category:Currency designers, and his article mentions the designs briefly). Ingrid 00:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nth series of the renminbi

DRV of Category: Economy of mainland China. [[4]] - Privacy 19:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fuddlebuck

That is a very odd old Canadianism referring to our dollar, but long before it ever was a coin. You can see the cultural reference in fuddle duddle. Thanks for editing the redirects. --WPaulB 05:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of banks in mainland China

[5] - I can't understand what this guy is arguing for. His viewpoints are not quite consistent and are pretty hard to understand. Are you familiar with the things he's talking about? Can you advise what I should do? - Privacy 03:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arabic and Hebrew on Template: Infobox Currency

Just a reminder. – Zntrip 02:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem found. This is a work-around. I will start a discussion on Template talk:Languageicon soon. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool, I'll check back latter on the languageicon talk page. – Zntrip 03:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Hm. Seeing that no one has responded to your post on Template talk:Languageicon, I would suggest asking an admin to make the appropriate edit. Perhaps Nightstallion would be willing to do it. – Zntrip 18:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Timezone

Oh my, you’re quite clever. ^_^ Of course, from my user page you could tell that I live in Los Angeles. I guess I’ll change my preferences, but then I’ll forget to change them in October or when ever. Damn daylight savings. Anyway, thank you. :) – Zntrip 04:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The numismatic naming conventions suck!

The numismatic naming conventions for titling numismatic articles suck! A lot of people would rather see an article titled Coins of Cyprus instead of the idiotically named Coins of the Cypriot pound and Banknotes of Somaliland instead of the idiotically named Paper money of the Somaliland shilling. - (203.211.72.148 08:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

What you suggest would put Coins of the Hungarian pengő and Coins of the Hungarian forint in the same article, which would be too long. And Coins of the Australian pound and Coins of the Australian dollar. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Valencia

Hi you've recently changed the Valencian word Carrer (the word for street) to the English word 'Career' !! Please be advised that Carrer is not a typo. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Valenciano (talk • contribs) 12:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

My apologies. I will pay attention to that in the future. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 12:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PAGE HELP!!

Can you visit my page and comment on it? I want some advice on making it more catchy, and I like the set up of yours. I am not a new user. Read my little sandboxes like LongRiver Ledger and NEOPETSetc. and comment MAINLY on those please! THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE!! PLEASE VISIT AND COMMENT!! thanx!! (saw you on coin something's page!) do u live in china?BEATLES RULE!!! go fonz! 21:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] THANX!!

I do need help aligning!That would be great!! I did some things in caps-lock so people would see it and it would stand out. If there is another way to make it stand out, That would be awesome if u told me!! But, THANX FOR THE FEEDBACK!!! I am always open to suggestions! Anymore? I don't take offense! THANX!!!!!! :D BEATLES RULE!!! go fonz! 00:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Philippine peso/piso

Hi, you've been moving articles like Philippine peso to Philippine piso, etc. You cited Wikipedia:WikiProject_Numismatics/Style as the reason for moving, but at that page I found "If the currency is listed at ISO 4217, use the name given there". At ISO 4217, the currency is listed as Philippine Peso. So, why move it to piso? I'm from the Philippines... "peso" is the English term, "piso" is the Filipino term (both English and Filipino and official languages). Hope we can clear things up, thanks. TheCoffee 04:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Forgive me butting in but it really is about time that we removed "If the currency is listed at ISO 4217, use the name given there" from Wikipedia:WikiProject_Numismatics/Style. It directly contradicts the local name standard in many cases and keeps on causing this kind of discussion. I realise that Philippine piso is an awkward case due to the dual official languages and we can always discuss individual cases like this, but having ISO 4217 still given as a standard is unnecessary.
Dove1950 12:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Dove that ISO 4217 should be removed from the style guide. They even capitalized all the units. On the specific case of the Philippine, it has 2 official languages. So maybe it's a case like the Finnish mark or the Swiss franc? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 18:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

OK then, let's remove it. While we're at it, let's move Finnish mark to Finnish markka since only about 5% of Finns speak Swedish as their first language. I'll pass on meddling with Swiss franc if it's all the same.
Dove1950 20:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

So... we can move Philippine piso -> Philippine peso? It just feels much more natural to me. TheCoffee 10:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what Dove have to say about this. If all the multi lingual currencies have the same naming scheme, then I'm fine. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 10:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Currencies related to the euro

Hi, could you rethink your judgement about "strengthening" of the Hungarian forint and Slovak koruna? Hungarian forint and Slovak koruna have been "weakening" because the same amount of these 2 currencies is now worth LESS euro. 252.9 Ft/€ -> 282 Ft/€ means LESS euro/Ft... User:GillesAuriault 16:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, these two currencies have been strengthening. Your definition of strengthening and weakening are correct. But the "change" should be 282 Ft/€ → 252.9 Ft/€. It appears to me that 282 is the "base line", where 252 is the actual. Therefore, it changes in that direction. Same thing with the Slovak koruna. There is a historical exchange rate graph on the article. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 18:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WatchlistBot

First, it tags categories (starting at Category:Numismatics, it goes through the hierarchy, and I say yes/no) -- this is where I messed up when I first started, since Numismatics was the first project I tagged, and I ended up tagging extra categories. Plus, the exonumia distinction makes things a bit more complicated. Most other projects I've tagged have gone much more smoothly. Then, it tags all articles in tagged categories, without me having to confirm. So, once the categories are right, I can re-run it to tag all new articles very easily. I can give you more detail if you want, or you can see the source (I think you mentioned once that you're a programmer?) Ingrid 01:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Catalogue numbers

The catalogue numbers from the Krause catalogues ( 'KM', 'KMTn', and 'X' numbers) and from the Pick catalogues ('P', 'PM', and 'PS' numbers) should be used in a numismatic article such as Coins of Zimbabwe or Banknotes of South Africa - (203.211.72.148 07:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC))

That sounds like a bold idea. Would you like to start drafting a style guide and incorporate to Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style/Currency article? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 11:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cast Chinese Coins

So how do I put the Preface/Introduction/Foreword pre-amble after the Contents like in every other normal book or article? DavidDavidhartill 07:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Normally, the first introduction is a "section free" section. It goes above the table of content. You can take a look at articles with the most revisions and see their styles. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 11:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I now realise that the arrangements for writing in Wikipedia are not normal, so I will not waste any more time on formatting, and get on with the article. Thanks, David

[edit] coins

Seems you know a lot about coins, since you identified my uploaded image of 50 schilling as not bimetallic.. whatever that means.. i just got the coin and have no idea what it was made of or why it was made.. I have access to several other variations of the 50 schilling coin which i can make pictures of if you wish.

Also, your to-do list has this: "Original 12 + Slovenia * Upload the images of national sides to Commons. Raise ncd on the png copies on en."

Does this mean, you need pictures of coins or bank notes from Slovenia? i may be able to provide them to you, assemble a list of which you need and message me. Jernejl 11:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, bimetallic coins usually have a yellow part and a silvery part. See British two pound coin for images. Thank you for the offer of images. For the task I have on my to-do refers to the euro coin images that are on the English Wikipedia. They need to be re-uploaded to Commons. May I ask what kind of Slovenian currency images you have? What is the quality of them? Resolution? Condition of the coins/notes themselves? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 11:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, my error about 50 schilling, i've pictured and uploaded another variant of 50 schilling here, can you add it to the schilling article? the new template you added where you moved the picture is totally weird and i have no idea how to add a row of two cells to it..: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:50schilling_2.jpg

I'm from Slovenia, so i still got many coins and some bank notes of the Tolar, and a good cameraphone, so the quality of pictures is pretty good. Jernejl 11:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Please take a look at Slovenian tolar and see if you can produce better pictures. File names should be very descriptive, like Slovenia-10Tolarjev-1992. But in all fairness, you didn't know the subjects of the commemorative Austrian 50 Schilling coins. I don't have access to the coin catalog right now. So I'll include your recently uploaded image later. Please remind me if I forget to do so. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 12:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rubber Export Coupons from the states of Malaysia and Singapore

These strongly resemble banknotes in terms of their design, so articles should be created under these titles;

• Rubber Export Coupons of British Malaya (1922-34) (Some of these bear placenames that have been handstamped for issue in various states).

• Rubber Export Coupons of the Federated Malay States (1935-42).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Johore (1934-42).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Kedah (1934-42).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Kelantan (1935-42).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Penang Island (1941).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Singapore and Penang Island (1936).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Singapore Island (1938, 1941).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Straits Settlements Mainland (1938, 1941-42).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Trengganu (1938, 1941-42).

• B.L. and P. Rubber Export Coupons (1941).

• Rubber Export Coupon of British North Borneo (1938).

• Rubber Export Coupons of Sarawak (1938, 1940-42).

The dates in brackets are the years of issue. - (203.211.72.148 21:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Here is better photos of a Kelantanese dinar coin

Here's a link; [[6]]. The obverse depicts an Arabic monogram, and the reverse depicts a minaret, the AH date, and the Kelantanese state coat of arms. - (203.211.72.148 03:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Speedy deletion on Wikimedia Commons

Someone is adding deletion tags to all money related images on wikimedia commons, regardless issuing country, issuing date, copyright tag etc. Any idea? Timur lenk 23:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NoInclude

BEATLES RULE!!! go fonz! 00:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)did you delete my noincludes? If you did, THANX!! Help me with my page!!

[edit] Potential help with a tricky link template?

Hi Chochopk,

I was wondering if I could ask your advice/help with an external link template.
It works similar like Template:ISSN in that the target numbers contain operators (- and =) within the numbers (just like ISBNs and ISSNs).
The problem I am having and didn't realize until after I launched it (well done...), is that many of the target numbers actually end on an operator (usually a "=") which makes the link not work.

Do you have any idea on a possible workaround? I find this a bit tricky... but maybe you could help with your experience.
Otherwise I might have to remove the template again.
Here's the template I am talking about: Template:VNUM
Try this number as an example for the tricky kinds:
0101-05=

Thank you... Also OK if you can't do it or don't have time, that's OK. I used to live in Seattle as well, went to UW in the 1990s. Hope you enjoy it there!
--Carboxen 04:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi again,

The answer may be contained in this help page here, but I am not sure I understand it. uh..

--Carboxen 02:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I solved it now. Example is this one here, for VNUM parameter "0101-05=", which coded explicitly as {{VNUM|1=0101-05=}} now resolves correctly as VNUM 0101-05=.

I would still be greatful if you could check over it some time. Fixing it up now, incl documentation. --Carboxen 06:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Currency navbox adoption

Hey Chochopk, could you help me to implement the wonderful currency navboxes to the Hungarian wikipedia? I tried something, but it can be seen on the result that I am not an expert... The templates use many other templates which again use many other... Thanx in advance, Timur lenk 09:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help! Of which nav box specifically do you refer to? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 10:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The geographical ones (Currencies of continents). Timur lenk 11:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Here: hu:Kategória:Pénznem navigációs sablonok —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Timur lenk (talk • contribs) 11:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Thank you for that.

Chopchopk, thank you for that tip about moving a page. - (British Commonwealth Numismatics 07:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC))

I had a look at that page Help:Moving a page, but it wasn't any help, as it mentions about the 'move' tab at the top of the page, which is actually not present. I think someone needs to update that page as well. - (British Commonwealth Numismatics 08:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Operating system & Windows.

Chopchopk,I am using Internet Explorer 7 and Windows 2000 XP on my computer. - (British Commonwealth Numismatics 08:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC))