Talk:Choi Yong Sul
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[edit] Successor
I'd like to see some sort of reference to support the claim that Kim Yun Sang is the official successor to the title doju and was granted this by Choi Yong Sul.
It is not that I wish to promote an alternative idea but rather that I have heard similiar things said of Chang Chinil and Lim Hyun Soo and others so it would be nice to see something that fleshes out this assertion a bit.--Mateo2006 01:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
The Correct version was in Korean new papper and TV its was Chang Chinil that was getting the title Doju from Choi Yong Sul. And Choi thort that he woulde be able to united Hapkido.But he didnet and no i dont even think he is active any more.He was allso the Nr 1: 9-Dan from Choi.Lim Hyun Soo is Nr 2 and i think Kim Yun Sang is Nr 3 and that is all.
Request for Further Support for Claims
Thanks for the response. Do you have a user name?
I'm wondering if you know of anyone who has a copy of the this newspaper article or at least newspaper name and date. That would be of great help. There are some people who at the moment are asserting that Chang Chinil was designated only as the head of the system for the United States, which was not what I understood at that time either. It is also my understanding that Master Chang closed up the hapkido practise he had long run out of a dance studio in New York city several years ago and did not reopen a dojang, much the same as you have asserted here.
As for the numbers on the 9th dans, those numbers seem a little too convenient. No one from the distant past, no one deceased, no one little known. Lim claims that the only 9th dans that he knows of are himself and Chang Chinil (Jang Jin Il) for example. While Kim Yun Sang's certificate is dated 1984 and seems to have the support of at least some members of Choi's family. Life is rarely simple :). Thanks for your input here. --Mateo2006 12:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lim As Successor
I know of Master Lim's rank etc but has he ever directly claimed to be Choi's official successor? He doesn't speak to the subject in the interviews that I've read with him. If not perhaps we shouldn't be doubling up his information from the 'important students' section and the 'successor' section. Any feelings on this out there?--Mateo2006 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Students of Choi Section
The placement of the names in this section is reserved in the first case for people known to have had Choi as their primary teacher and have certification from Choi supporting this. Most of these teachers were people who were born and raised in Taegu and who had significant access to Choi.
The placement of the second section are students who indicate Choi as their teacher and may have learned from him in seminars in seoul or by travelling to Taegu for short periods of training but who started their training under students of Choi who were based in Seoul, for the most part under Master Ji Han Jae. Students who fit into this criteria would be people like Masters Han, Myung Kwang-Sik, Kim Yong-Jin etc.
