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Welcome. If you have something you would like to say, feel free to drop me a line here. I'll respond on your talk page if necessary, but I don't watch talk pages I post on, so I expect replies here. I make no appologies for my politics, or who I am, but I'll try to work to deal with any disputes peacefully.

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[edit] The vandalism warning

I apologize if I made a mistake. I'm not sure what the warning was for, because I need to know where I put the warning (probably under the IP address you were using). If you have no idea where it came from, then it may be because I was directing the message to somebody else who also uses your IP address (in fact, this is the most likely scenario). If you think that that isn't it, I would be happy to investigate it further. Please leave a note on my talk page telling me where you found the message. Sorry for any confusion! -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✎]] 15:05, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

No, I wouldn't give you a vandalism warning for copying and pasting from wikipedia- even if you use the entire article. However, it is possible that I may have given you a copyvio notice for that...again- I need to see the talk page to really understand what happened. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✎]] 15:15, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Sorry, I can'tget your IP address with that message...try [1]. But to be honest, it's not a big deal. I only report recurrant vandals, and nobody's likely to report you to your ISP even if you are recurrant. The worst that can happen is that your IP address gets blocked from editing (my message is partially a scare tactic :)). But it should be noted that if vandals try to evade the block, they will sometimes be reported to their ISP. Like I said before, you probably share an IP address with somebody else- that's all. In all likelyhood: nobody is trying to accuse you at all. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✎]] 19:51, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Redstar2000

To be completely honest- I'm not really a VFD person. I'll try to give you an educated answer- but if you want some really good insight on how to make this better (assuming it can be made better), you might want to talk to somebody I know named Geogre.

Firstly, the article would best be under his real name, not a pseudonym- that's just the way Wikipedia is. The pseudonym should redirect to his name. Judging by some of the stuff that he's done (i.e. met with Fidel Castro, played basketball with the president of Cuba), he seems like he would be a fairly important figure. You should concentrate on emphasizing his accomplishments. A separate section might be a good idea if you can fill it up enough. One of the problems that some of the folks wanting to delete might have is that a lot of it talks just about his theories, and what he's thinking. People want to see evidence that this guy is important, and that deserves an entry. A great place to start might be on his accomplishments at Students for a Democratic Society.

Has he written any books? If so, you should definately include them in the article, preferably with a short synopsis. This is another reason why his name would be a pretty big bonus. Anybody can create a pseudonym on the internet and come up with a bunch of theories. I don't know much about this person, or what he does, but if he is notable, then you need to prove it. I know that you listed some web contributions, but the internet has a certain anonymity with it, so only web contributions might not be enough. Having said that, I think that you did a wonderful job on improving the article- this version seems to be infinitely better than when it was listed on VfD, and everybody who contributed did a great job. If you can prove that this person is noteworthy, and add a name, it could work wonders for its future. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✍]] 15:44, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • Hi, Che. About Redstar2000, I can see that you've already improved it a lot. And you've also already received a lot of good advice, especially from Frazzydee, about what you need to include to make the article more encyclopedic, so I'm not writing to you about the big issues, I just wanted to advise you to remove the remark towards the end about how "many believe him to be egotistical and self-centered". It's too personal, it's not encyclopedic, and it just looks out of place. I hope you don't mind my saying so. Btw, I think I saw you mention somewhere that you were trying to figure out who had created the original article. It was posted from a computer in Australia — don't know if that helps at all. Best wishes, Bishonen 17:36, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Replying to your message on my own page. Bishonen 23:12, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Edited some of the links. CyM, I can't believe that there's actually an article on him. By the way, does anyone know his real name?

[edit] Welcome

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Again, welcome! Johnleemk | Talk 13:57, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Anarcho-capitalist critique of left-anarchism

Aich, I'm so sorry I didn't respond earlier...I saw it before and was planning to review it when I had more time, but I never got around to it :'(. Have you already gotten some insight from somebody else, or were you still waiting on me? Again, I'm really sorry about that!

I looked at the Redstar2000 page- I'm sorry that it was deleted. Maybe if you wrote a strong enough argument you could try to get it back by using the votes for undeletion page? If you want an archive of what was there before, I would be more than happy to retrieve it for you. Thanks for your time- and sorry again for my embarassingly late response. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|✍]] 23:54, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I don't think this article is awful -- it comes close to NPOV, my main problem is that it is written in the style of a pamphlet and not an encyclopedia -- and that all the content bewlongs in the Anarch-Capitalism article itself; polemics don't merit their own pages. Of course, I have other questions -- is anarcho capitlaism just a term made up by a few guys with websites? How many peoiple are in the moevement? What is its structure? An enecylopedia article will look at these issues. Anyway, if you want to move the content to the main article page I think that minimally makes sense. But if you object to it entirely, put it on the VfD page as we shouldn't delete pages unilaterally, Slrubenstein
I too didn't respond right away, but look here for my response [2]. millerc 03:16, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I am not a contributor to Wikipedia, but I happened to find the article on the Ridge Route in California today. My family has driven to Los Angeles for family vacations from Spokane, WA many times. I was excited to learn about the history of this interesting piece of geography. So, I mailed the link to my wife and two children. My wife called me and asked if I was playing some kind of sick joke on her. The page had been vandalised since I had read it this morning.

Bottom line, I wanted to thank you for your reversal of the vandalism before my children had been subjected to the crass and IMHO dehumanizing image that had replaced the article. Thanks again. Tom Heavey (theavey@gmail.com)

Speaking as a contributor to Wikipedia, thanks for reverting that vandalism so quickly. I really appreciate that, as I am one of the two principal editors of the Ridge Route article. BTW, welcome to Wikipedia! Hope you continue to make good contributions here. --avnative 14:15, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I just wanted to say my joke oin Talk:Anarchism wasn't necessarilly about you, I don't think your necesarilly a pc-fascist anymore than I'm a right winger. http://www.politicalcompass.org/ sez I'm a slightly left centrist. Nice taste in music, BTW, we listen to alot of the same tunes ;) [[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade Wants you to vote!]] 23:46, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

BTW, I think you'd like Operation Ivy and the Pogues (judging by what you have listed). [[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade Wants you to vote!]] 11:01, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] What's in a name?

Che, your name is in breach of Wikipedia naming policy is it not? Libertas

  1. Avoid choosing a username that is the name of a politician, military or religious figure or event.
  2. Avoid usernames that are offensive, inflammatory or confusing.

stop trolling please Libertas

please put your comments in the correct place on the page, and leave me alone.--Che y Marijuana 19:06, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

Using Che's name is clearly a politician's name. To be honest, I couldn't care less, I just noticed the guideline at the login page and brought it to your attention. Libertas

Che happens to be Latin American slang for "mate"/"chum", I don't know what he is talking about. And afaik, we do not have a policy against picking as username things you would not be allowed to smoke :o) dab (ᛏ) 10:08, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi Cym, no I don't think we know each other. I just noticed that someone had complained about your name and it made me curious, that's all, which is how I stumbled on your page.  :-) Best, Slim 08:51, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 'Che Guevara: a revolutionary life'

"If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation everytime that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades" - Che.

Greetings, compadre,

We have similar names, did you notice? So [moving right along], I recently read Jon Lee Anderson's 810-page biography of our beloved commandante, Ernesto El Che Guevara. Have you read or heard of it? El_C 07:47, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. You seem to have misread and/or overread me, I wasn't asking for help, but rather wandering how familliar you were with the work, considering your username and all. As I said, I have read it recently, with great interest. On that note, I highly recommend it – though I take issue with some his interpertations, but I do give him a lot of credit for decisively vindicating Che from a lot of the more vulgar and still prevalent slanders – and, of course, it lends much greater credibility for these to come from a respected American biographer as opposed to a respected Cuban biographer). Let me know if you wish for me to elaborate further. El_C 10:38, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Other Ideologies Using Socialism In Their Name

After further reflection on the matter we've discussed on the Talk:Socialism page, I've decided to write the sentence I've been talking around, and I've found an appropriate link. I mention this so you'll be sure to check it out and delete if you find it POV. --Christofurio 13:15, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Link

Interesting. Sounds like you were probably doing the right thing, but with no edit summary and no remark on the talk page, how was anyone to know? In any case, your link is back. If you have characterized the other link correctly on my talk page, I'd suggest that you delete it again, but this time with an edit summary indicating what you are doing.

I hope you understand: you were doing exactly what people routinely do when they try to "hijack" a link. There was no easy way for me to spot that that was not what was going on. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:37, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

Looks like you already did precisely what I suggested. Cool. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:04, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] user:Gioueeoi

No problem. I guess the good news is that new editors that make troubling edits are usually either clueless newcomers that start to 'get it', or they are intentional troublemakers that soon give up when they keep getting reverted. Niteowlneils 01:54, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] OCAP

I'm sure it has anarchist members and supporters, but I don't think it is in any way an officially anarchist organization. - SimonP 14:40, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anarcho-capitalist critique of left-anarchism

Could you please delete this page in accordance with the unanimous vote on its VfD page?--Che y Marijuana 10:10, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

The wiki tells me "Can't delete this article because it contains new block-compressed revisions, which are not supported by the new selective undelete feature and could result in data loss if deletion and undeletion happened. This is a temporary situation which the developers are well aware of, and should be fixed within a month or two. Please mark the page for deletion, protect the page and wait for a software update to allow normal deletion. If there is an actual complaint from a copyright holder or other suitable legal complaint and they are unwilling to accept page blanking and protection as a temporary measure, please ask a developer for assistance." I recommend you blank it, except for a note explaining the situation (and still linking to the VfD). -- Jmabel | Talk 17:18, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Democratic socialism vs Social democracy

You had reverted some pages I suggested to be merged, back to their original under the basis that they are different ideological concepts.

Could you explain to me what the difference is between the two ideologies. Thanks, Schnits.

[edit] wow

"Was it an april fool's joke though?" HaHa good one. No, I just like to be fair and balanced. I understand the capitalist arguments more thoroughly so that's what I focus on. I'm starting to piece together the socialist arguments. RJII 20:43, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I understand that anarchists have traditionally been anti-capitalist, But, all that matters is that the term is noteable. It's pretty common, so it should be in Wikipedia. I have nothing against the article saying that it's almost always used by pro-capitalists. That's a fact too. RJII 04:48, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TDC

Hey, don't point out to TDC that he's about to run foul of the three-revert rule. It is preferable that he does so, and then we can have him publicly condemned and perhaps blocked. That would be the best thing for Wikipedia. Chamaeleon 21:39, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi there! If you have an opinion on me, here's the page to say it on: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Chamaeleon.

If not, excuse the intrusion. Chamaeleon 14:22, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your support. Helpful Dave 14:08, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ayn Rand at Communism

No problem. Actually, I did not mean the Ayn Rand comment for you. I just thought that in general Ayn Rand was irrelevant in an article about communism (i.e. I approved your deletion). I also think that her view on capitalism is extremist, utopian, unrealisable, etc. etc. Luis rib 22:41, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm ok with the section at Communism. I slightly changed the last sentence but kept the meaning - hope you're ok with that. I agree that it is enough on the subject - I hate the pages where it goes argument > critique >counter-critique >counter-counter-critique> etc. You get my meaning. It becomes unreadable in the end. Luis rib 23:15, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

I've listed you at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Che_y_Marijuana because you seem just a little too biased to your own POV when you edit certain articles. Philwelch 06:04, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okie dokie. I will continue to work against the skewing of pages however, have fun with your RfC.-- Revolutionary Left | Che y Marijuana 06:26, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
You mean for the skewing of pages :P. In all seriousness, there is a place for you to respond. on that page. Philwelch 06:34, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
FWIW, I have posted an "outside view". -- Viajero 10:45, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Don't let it worry you Che, this is a small group of rapid POV warriors who are attempting to put pressure on you because you dared to get in their way. No one outside their group will take this kind of thing seriously. Kev 23:45, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hero of Socialist Labor Image

Hello CyM. I am just wondering what you think about the image for the award? Zscout370 19:40, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD

I'm afraid that my listing a page on VfD would attract the wrong kind of attention. Still, if you can get someone to list it there I will vote for it, or alternatively we can just continue to revert RJ as he is quite obviously grinding his own political axe atm. Kev 04:44, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anarchism template

"What I'm saying is, they should be in a different section, not under "schools of anarchism"."

Crimethinc and Post-Left is a school of anarchism, being that people write under the pretext of that set of school of thought. This is irony in action of course, being that both want to destroy ideology, but at the same time creation a set standard of discouse.

"And the reality is, implying they are a huge part of the anarchist movement is americo-centric. Very americo-centric. Step out from there, and they don't register amongst the anarchist community."

? Dont' register amoungst the anarchist community? Crimethinc has been (for better or worse), some of the best outreach material that I have seen to date, and this is coming from a anarchist community organizer of a couple of years. Also, crimethinc has been translated into a wide variety of various languages etc, and I think has spread to influence many people outside of America.

I spent alot of time working on this page, to date I have updated the anarchist history section, put in a bullet by bullet account of the anarchist movement across the globe, and written the large section on anarchist society, economics, etc (the bullet by bullet run down), so I want to see the site flourish just as you do.

Also, why keep "individualist anarchism" and "eco-anarchism" up there and not crimethinc? At least more people will come into the anarchism site through that as opposed to some crap that really dosen't exist outside of a few dusty Max Stirnet essays.

[edit] Image:Hammer_sickle.png

I was wondering what you think about this new image. It is a lot smaller (pixel and kb size), and the image was derived from an image of the Soviet flag on Wikipedia Commons. I also want to know what you think about your page layout now. Zscout370 19:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Hullo, oh feverish one!

Werd. Wow, you really hate them ancaps, eh? I finally got my shit together and made a "real" contribution to wikipedia . . . about the obscure hardcore band 411! Dig? Anywhom, feel better. Love, Virgin Molotov Cocktail

[edit] What's this all about, then?

You don't have Propaghandi linked to from your music section. Surely this is an accidental omission. But seriously, you should give them a listen if you haven't heard any of their music. Failing that, at least have a look at their lyrics; they're a great band.

[edit] image:Hammer_sickle.png

Hello again CyM. Well, I was able to replace that image on every page that has been displayed on, moving it to Image:Hammer_sickle_clean.png. Once the old image is deleted, I think we should move this to the Wikipedia Commons, so this image can be used on all Wikimedia projects (including the various Wikipedia under many languages). If you have any comments, just let me know. Also, I created an image, called Image:Red_star.png that can be used on any Communist pages that you see fit. Zscout370 20:53, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Hey, I got just an idea. Should we have a vote on this image, since I created an image, along did you and a few others. I just want to see what image will be used. I promise that I will not revert the image again after the vote, unless you give me permission to (mainly to compress the size of the image). Deal? Zscout370 (talk) 01:40, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Now look here, you ornery hippy

I donno if its the misanthropy or the oxycontin producing the POV, but crank it down a notch, eh? I happen to like books of reference because their not POV. They make excellent weapons against certain radical types who are too blinded to ideology to see the truth. Heres hoping you arn't too far gone to still respect factual accuracy, NPOV and Cite your sources.

Cheers, Sam Spade 23:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Banned?

What's with the remark you made at Talk:Che_Guevara#ComradeChe.com about you being banned? Banned from what? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:32, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

  • Perhaps he blocked your account for some period of time, but, unless I am mistaken, only the ArbCom can ban you. But I don't see anything even mildly objectionable in what you said on that page. What on earth was the basis for the block? -- Jmabel | Talk 23:07, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hammer and Sickle image, again

I know you are probably getting tired of this situation, but its not about reverting or anything.

There is a Wikimedia project called Commons. The Commons is a project that allows images that have no copyright issues to be uploaded there. It will allow other users from other Wikimedia projects to use that image. Example, I uploaded the Hammer and Sickle image to the Commons. The file name is Image:Hammer and sickle.png. Someone from the Polish or French Wikipedia can go in and use that image on their pages with no problems. It is like a collecive, but only for images (to my knowledge).

Now, because of what I did, I am going to every page that has Image:Hammer sickle clean.png and replacing it with Image:Hammer and sickle.png. I know most of them use templates, so 90 percent of the pages will be fine. I hope you understand what I am doing and if you also want, you can help me by replacing the image links like what I did to your user page. If you have any questions, just let me know. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 03:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anarchism vs. anarcho-capitalism

Oi! I've put this cloned nonsense up for deletion.. interested? -max rspct 21:28, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Can u go back and put yer sig on the Anarchism_vs._anarcho-capitalism otherwise yer vote may not count.. cheers - max rspct 10:25, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anarchism is unprotected AAAAHHH!!

U alright pal? U partying wid Rush Limbaugh an Courtney Love? I'm fuckin shit right now myself .. hopefully i'm still alive this time next month. All power to the people!!! -max rspct 6 July 2005 20:58 (UTC)

Ta ... net is down? Mine has been suspended by NTL corp (disputed bill) but i head off for a few weeks vacation soon anyway. I hate monopolies. -max rspct 7 July 2005 20:32 (UTC)

[edit] Hero of the Soviet Union

I hope you log back on soon. For having over 1,200 edits and being a great Wikipedian, I declare you a Hero of the Soviet Union.

Image:Hero of the Soviet Union medal.png

Take care, Dbraceyrules 19:28, 30 July 2005 (UTC).

[edit] Hello?

Wake up!! Where are you? -max rspct 23:13, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] LPMCOTW

Hi,

have a look at Wikipedia:Leftist Parties and Movements Collaboration of the Week. --Soman 20:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] anarchism / historical

Hi Che,

I know I'm coming in new to a long-running saga, but I would like to help out with the anarchism page.

Saw that you have replaced the old anarchism page with anarchism-historical. In principle I'm in favour - but do you think it's ready yet? I was looking to start editing the a-h page the other day but it seemed to me there are some issues around tne basic structure/chronology which need to be agreed on. So in the end I just posted a note on the discussion page (copied below) - what do you think? -

I really like the feel and the look of this new page, but at the same time it seems to be getting pretty muddled. Have been sitting looking at it for a while trying to think of ways to help straighten it out, and thinking maybe we need to - not dumb down but inject a shot of simplicity. I can see people don't want to introduce a timeline of famous characters, but perhaps it'd help to be more linear in terms of the development of ideas. I.e., follow a stricter chronology in terms of sub-head topics and within each one.

Eg. at the moment we jump from godwin and proudhon to the florence congress then back to the ego and its own. And within private property section have the (20th century) platform then next para starts 'later in the 19th century'.

As a suggestion - what about:

1) first agree on the discussion page an ordered list of subheaded topics

2) within each subhead use a strictly chronological approach.

As my clumsy stab at an ordered list of subheads:

godwin and proudhon - birth of modern anarchism.

private property - starting with proudhon's 'what is property'

individualism

(you know i'm not sure about including russian nihilism at all as a section - it is very country-specific, and not exclusively anarchist history by any means - eg. could argue as well that SR party was true successor of nihilist movement)

the international - development of anarchism as libertarian tendency within working class movement

propaganda of the deed / insurrectionary anarchism (don't these two belong together?)

pacifist anarchism - debates around violence (would also mention debates over 1st world war here) - tolstoy

syndicalism

feminism

russian revolution - the platform

anti-fascism - spanish civil war

I think looking at my schema I would tend to work more around historical events and movements, and the way ideas fed off actions, more than as it currently is. I don't think this is a bad thing in a historical account - to situate anarchism within working class revolutionary history rather than as if ideas are are born in the air.

Bengalski 11:02, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ensuring consistency

I have edited the intro of this the anarchism article to point to anarcho-capitalism and removed the section on anarcho-capitalism. This is an attempt to mirror the status of the libertarianism article in regards to the lesser known libertarian socialism, please take a moment to look at each article and compare. It is my belief that given the featured status of the libertarianism article, its relative stability compared to this article, and the clear similarity of the subject matter, this is a road toward a legitimate compromise. I would ask that the two major catalysts of the ongiong edit war of this article (RJ and Hogeye), both of whom have also edited the libertarianism article, please ensure that you are consistent in any standard you apply to this article. Hopefully this will help us reach the point of stability that the civil editors of libertarianism have been able to do in the relative absence of constant antagonism.

This message has been posted to the user pages of all the current major contributors I could find, if you know of someone I have left out please feel free to forward it. Revkat 16:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Classic Rock

Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most liked classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck 02:58, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nepalese Revolution

Che-Lives=Good website+good politics. Nice to know Che's beliefs+ideals are still alive and well.

I didnt realise Canada had so many Communists! I saw a page on Canadian Communist parties...there were loads of them!

What do you think about the shit going down in Nepal? PJB 15:32, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing. I cant register on the Che-Lives talk forum! I've forgotten my e-mail (If it ever worked...)!!! Is there any way around this? COMRADE IN DISTRESS!!! PJB 15:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mao Zedong

Hey comrade. I recently heard another account of that story you told me in LiveChat. Supposedly, PLA (without orders from Mao) fired on some students in Shanghai.

[edit] help

I ask you, as a colleague, friend, and as a brother-in-arms, to help me here [3]. Please review the recent edit history of the article. I did not think that using BCE and CE would be offensive to Christians, and the fact is the article has used these twerms for years. Moreove, I didn't think identifying the article as relevant to Jewish articles would be offensive to Christians. I appreciate your help, Slrubenstein | Talk 13:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EuroMayDay

Heya,

dunno what your perspective is on this but there's currently a conflict going on at Euromayday with people claiming it's a fascist attempt to co-opt international workers' day (blatant bollocks). Have opened up an RFC, if you have anything to contribute it'd be cool. --Black Butterfly 13:29, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

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06/08/06

[edit] Engels on Anarchism

Engels on Anarchism.

"The anarchists put the thing upside down. They declare that the proletarian revolution must begin by doing away with the political organisation of the state. But after its victory the sole organisation which the proletariat finds already in existence is precisely the state. This state may require very considerable alterations before it can fulfil its new functions. But to destroy it at such a moment would be to destroy the only organism by means of which the victorious proletariat can assert its newly-conquered power, hold down its capitalist adversaries and carry out that economic revolution of society without which the whole victory must end in a new defeat and in a mass slaughter of the workers similar to those after the Paris Commune."

Are you in L'Humanite? I was in the WIL in the U.S. I left it because of disagreements and now I'm a Wobbly.

[edit] Re: Che-Lives

Hi there, it's nice to hear from you again =)

Che-Lives was deleted via the procedure at WP:VFD. You can see the comments & voting that occurred at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Che-Lives.

If you would like to try and revive it, the policy is outlined at Wikipedia:Undeletion policy. I suggest that you look over the comments people made, as deletions like these are usually permanent. However, if you feel that some important facts were missed or some of the allegations were incorrect, you can request that the decision be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.

Hope that helps!

-Frazzydee|✍ 22:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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