Talk:Chetwynd, British Columbia

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Contents 1 Section order; comments 2 Nitpicks 3 Crime Stats 4 Problem with litres 5 Good Article Candidate??

[edit] Section order; comments

I was just wondering whether the sections could be ordered w.r.t. their chronological origin (i.e., make "Geography" the very first topic, since it predates all the other topics by eons). Putting "Geography" first would also give readers the "lay of the land" (the town's context, pre-human geologic history, etc.). I'm just sounding an opinion; there's no need to enact it. Saravask 02:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

• A good idea, but in accordance with Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities#Structure (format for city template) (and its proposed alternatives) the "History" section comes first. I put the "Government" section last because the tables divided the article too much. There were originally four tables (last 2 provincial elections and last 2 federal). I removed them to deal with criticism in the first FAC attempt that the article was too long. Other than that, I do not recall why I chose to put them in the order they appear. --maclean25 03:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

• I see. Why not convert the tables into smaller sidebars, so that the text can flow around them? Doing that, you could move the "Gov" section back to its prescribed position. You could then possibly even reintroduce the two deleted tables. Saravask 04:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nitpicks

Thanks for helping, here some replies to your comments:

• • That would be a mistake on my part. It should be Canadian English as it is a Canadian subject, but I just prefer American English, so some of that might have slipped out. Go with the Commonwealth English as I think it is the same as Canadian English.
  • Yes, I prefer the oxford comma as well.
  • I never really thought about dashes but now I see they work nicely. I guess I'm leaning pro-dashes.
  • I have not encountered any crime statistics for Chetwynd. But I will make some enquiries to see what the RCMP detachment or library has.

• • Yes, please fix those padded sentences. It is something I just naturally write. --maclean25 03:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crime Stats

What constitutes a violent crime? 150 violent crimes per year in a community the size of Chetwynd seems awfully high. What exactly is the definition of a "violent crime" in this context? --Dogbreathcanada 05:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

• There were 101 violent crimes in 2004, the blue side is crime rate of which 2004 recorded 141.9 crimes per 1000 population. From page 39 of the reference "Crimes against persons, more commonly called violent crimes, are considered the most serious of the three Criminal Code offence categories. Approximately 10% of all crime reported during 2004 was categorized as violent. These crimes include homicide, attempted murder, sexual and non-sexual assault, robbery and abduction." From Appendix D, in 2004, there were 833 offenses of which 101 were violent crimes of which 7 were sexual assualts, 93 were non-sexual assualts and 1 other (0 homicides, 0 attempted murder). --maclean25 05:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
  • The 150 I was quoting was from 1995. I should have quoted the more recent values. --Dogbreathcanada 08:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I re-did graph with calculations using the populations given on page 187 and the violent crime numbers on page 154. The results do show that Chetwynd has an above average overall crime and violent crime rates than the provincial averages. --maclean25 21:58, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the crime stats — it makes this more balanced than most place articles I've seen. Saravask 23:14, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with litres

There is a problem with the measurements expressed in litres. I identified the gallons associated with them as U.S. gallons, based on the conversions that had been used (changing one to barrels instead). However, on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chetwynd, British Columbia it was pointed out that the original figures were gallons, for at least some of them.

In that case, there is at least a fair chance that they were Canadian gallons, and that the conversion to litres was made incorrectly. In any case, the original unit should be given first, with the conversion in parentheses. Gene Nygaard 16:44, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

• Good catch. I checked the reference again and from the Rated Capacity of the Sewer Treatment section (page 12 of 25 where a conversion from litres/sec to gallons/day is given) it is shown that they are imperial gallons. I made the corrections using these units. -maclean25 05:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for checking it out and correcting it. Gene Nygaard 18:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article Candidate??

This is one of several articles about towns in BC that I have come across which I consider to be models that other articles should aspire to match. Have those doing the work here considered taking this through the Wikipedia:Good articles/Candidates process? See also Wikipedia:Good articles KenWalker | Talk 23:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

• The article is already rated A-class. According to the assessment scale A-class is better than GA-class. What is the difference between the two classes? ·maclean 01:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Not much, except the Good article review can produce suggestions for improvement, while the A rating is just some editor's opinion (might be mine in this case). --Qyd 05:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)