Talk:Chester A. Arthur

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Contents 1 Tammany Hall 2 Popularity 3 To do 4 1829 or 1830 5 Chester A. Arthur v. Chester Alan Arthur 6 Canada 7 Cause of Death 8 Which Newport? 9 Quote? 10 Introduction 11 Spoils system 12 Citations 12.1 Some famous quotes 13 Presidency section, possible copyvio?

[edit] Tammany Hall

Was Arthur, a Republican, really a member of Tammany Hall, which is a Democratic organization?

[edit] Popularity

I am no expert on him, but it was noted in a History Channel special that he had an extrememly high approval rating upon leaving office. Perhaps some text as to what caused this, as it stands now he is largely unknown to modern America.

I heard that too... it also stated that 4 young women proposed to him when he left office. is it true or just a rumor? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.80.228.241 (talk • contribs) 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To do

	To-do list for Chester A. Arthur:	edit  · history  · watch  · refresh
To incorporate in the article: CAA first to smoke cigarettes. First major immigration law Chinese Exclusion Act CAA trivia from Depauw U

I see no reason at all to remove the link to President Arthur's wife. --65.73.0.137

[edit] 1829 or 1830

Some sources say 1829 and others say 1830 about Arthur's birth, but this page says nothing about this dispute. Can anyone put any info in?? 66.32.252.184 00:51, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Chester A. Arthur v. Chester Alan Arthur

Why was this moved to Chester Alan Arthur? --Jiang 01:37, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Because User:Neutrality decided to move it unilaterally.--Kross^Talk 10:28, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I just moved it back.--Kross^Talk 00:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada

Several documentaries now believe they have proof that Arthur was born in Quebec. He assumed

[edit] Cause of Death

According to

Bumgarner, John R. The Health of the Presidents: The 41 United States Presidents Through 1993 from a Physician's Point of View. Jefferson, NC: MacFarland & Company, 1994.

"Arthur's administration was the first to systematically mislead the public about the President's health." In short, the notion that Arthur died of Bright's Disease, as the wiki stated prior to my edit, or that he even had Bright's Disease, has since proven false. He died, in fact, of a cerebral hemorrhage on November 18, 1886.

See "President Chester Arthur: Medical History," http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/t21.htm# --DanielNuyu 09:35, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Some of the information on this page is copied with some changes word for word from the White House Biography.

WhiteHouse.gov

[edit] Which Newport?

The article mentions that he was hobnobbing with the elite of Washington, New York and Newport. Which Newport? There are several on the list in Wikipedia. I assume Newport, Rhode Island, but don't want to make that assumption if incorrect. I suppose it's not that big of a deal, but for completeness sake it would be nice to know. --User:FeanorStar7

[edit] Quote?

Would including the "America: The Book" quote of "Chester A. Arthur: The policies we want, the muttonchops we need. Vote Chester A. Arthur 1880." be relevant or just forced humor? I personally find it funny but it probably doesnt have a place in wikipedia. I'll let others comment should they like, wouldnt add it without consensus. --Cptbuck 00:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Introduction

Does anyone think this intro is too long?

[edit] Spoils system

Most of the last paragraph of "Pre-political career" is lifted verbatim from the 4th paragraph of this site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ca21.html

Can you incorporate any of this: "As President, however, Arthur rose above his patronage-dispensing past to promote landmark legislation designed to curb the very spoils system that had been the springboard for his own political rise." from here: http://www.npg.si.edu/exh/hall2/chests.htm I've taught my history classes that because Garfield was killed by a disgruntled office seeker under the spoils system, that Arthur moved strongly to change the system. Even though he himself had benefitted from it he came to see its inherent weaknesses. Am I wrong? Yopienso 06:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

I see very few citations here, especially for bits of trivia. For example, the information about four women proposing to him, the 80 pairs of pants thing, the way his middle name was pronounced.. do these come from verifiable sources? If someone was writing from memory or general knowledge, he should have tracked down a source to add here. (Oh, and this goes for the Mark Twain quotation as well.) --Fadedhour 03:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some famous quotes

I added some info on Arthur's promotion to, and occupation of, the Vice Presidency, including a couple of quotes. I'm surprised that they hadn't been included yet.

Exactly why did you remove them? The crisis was real, the quotes were real, and it's very important to the presidency. I put them back with citiations.

[edit] Presidency section, possible copyvio?

Okay, thanks. I didn't want to delete in case it was copied from here to there or if it was already public domain. --Lyght 00:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

He was very stupid and weird.