Talk:Chesapeake Bay Bridge
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[edit] POV?
Some of the text in the future crossing section seems to be promoting the northern crossing as the best option, indeed the article does mention that that crossing is considered the "most sensible", but that doesn't really belong either. The most interesting thing I noticed is that someone completely removed any mention of cons for that crossing, it only lists pros now. I do believe that the final report from the task force will be out next month, and that will be the best time to fix this up. Until then someone needs to balance out the POV of that section at least a little.-Jeff (talk) 02:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well i would really have to look over the book to see what is in it, but yes, it seems to be a lot of op-ed work in it, then just delivering of information, epically when you see comments like "thus not a real solution for the state of Maryland", plus as much as it is sourced from the one source, their plenty of information that is not sourced, especially abut the infrastructure in Baltimore and northern Maryland, which is very incorrect. Anyway personally i think the section ought be rewritten. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- Points above are well taken, but I would like to point out that even suggesting the Ferry option as a legitamate alternative is only seriously considered by those who don't want any bridge what-so-ever, and even the committees notes state that a Ferry would in no way be considered a crossing alternative. It is most often used by the "No Growth & Leave us alone" types as a distracting issue to mis-lead people into believing: ferry impact=bridge impact. Also, I have noticed that people are not citing their sources i.e. "concerns that historic towns in the county such as Chestertown, would become suburbs of Baltimore.". While that statement may correctly demonstrate the feelings of people in Kent County I believe a source should be cited, or else it just may be the writer's POV and/or wishful thinking. I think in the long run their should be a separate page devoted to discussing the contorversy of a new bay bridge, and it be agreed to just let the facts stand for themsleves.-Oyarsu
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- I think that conclusion is common sense...Kent County is just a few miles across the Bay from Baltimore...if a road connected them, they would clearly be suburbs. It sounds like you are biased against "no-growthers" and/or those that want to protect their rural way of life. If you want your bridge, put it in the place that would have the most positive impact - between Southern Maryland and Somerset County. It diverts the DC traffic straight across the Bay to Ocean City and existing roads would only need to be expanded and have the right-of-way available to do so: Route 4,5, 413, and so forth could easily be widened. Those areas are among the poorest in the state and could use the development. On an unrelated note, perhaps it could be mentioned that a company is now offering flights from AA County to Ocean City, another travel alternative. WillC 10:36, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
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- The article does not suggest that the ferry option would be a good alternative, it simply lists some facts associated with it. Also, it is fairly common knowledge that Kent County residents don't want to see their county become "Kent Burnie". I don't live in Kent County but I have seen several newspapers and online sources that state that residents are afraid of this scenario, because they claim that it will destroy their rural way of life, and that most residents will spend their money in Baltimore instead of at local shops. So I figured this could be considered common knowledge and didn't bother finding a specific source. As for splitting it, I was considering this myself (to something like 2000s Chesapeake Bay crossing study), but I'd rather wait for the full report to be out before we split it. Also, we need to remember to maintain a balanced POV by listing both pros and cons for each "zone".-Jeff (talk) 02:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
The section has now been split to 2005 Chesapeake Bay crossing study (talk page).-Jeff (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Improving
Given this article's status as a B-class article I'd like to see if we can improve it further. If we can get enough people on this task hopefully it can reach GA or even FA status. I added a to do list, so if you see anything on there that can be done do it, and if you can think of anything else that can be added/improved add it to the list or do it yourself.-Jeff (talk) 04:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Primary title
I believe the nicknames for the Bay Bridge should all redirect to William Preston Lane, Jr. Memorial Bridge, since it is the official name. --Vees 05:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- According to WP:NC (CN), we should "Use the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things". In short Wikipedia's convention is to use the common names for topics over the official names. If the official name is what most people call something then we use that, however in this case very few people actually use the official name. Also, although most people call it the "Bay Bridge" that term can refer to a number of bridges, so we go with the simmilar-yet-unambiguous "Chesapeake Bay Bridge". Hope that helps.-Jeff (talk) 16:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you. --Vees
[edit] Bridge Fare
if you buy a book of "everyday" passes in advance, they are cheaper than the full price fare. It is 12 for 25 dollars. WillC 12:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I'll add that, along with the approximate price per pass ($2.08)-Jeff (talk) 20:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bay Bridge logo
It looks like the Bay Bridge now has an official logo, I noticed it while looking at baybridge.com. The front page there includes the logo for the 2007 Bay Bridge walk, and it also includes a link to a PDF file about private driveovers. Although the PDF file is on a topic unrelated to the bridge walk, it includes a very similar logo. I just thought I'd bring this to this article's editors' attention. I also think we should hold off on including the logo in this article for now, since it seems the logo has gone through a few different iterations. I'm guessing a more final version will be included on the redesigned site when it launches later this spring.-Jeff (talk) 03:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)