User talk:CharlieHuang

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Please feel free to comment and ask questions about my work here. Add new comments at the bottom of the page. If you wish to discuss guqin with me, then please do so on my music forum (look under "Links") as questions can be responded more effectively there.

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[edit] Qin

Thank you for the background on your qin playing and good luck with your manga. Are you in Beijing? I will visit there for the first time in October, for a conference at the Central Conservatory on the connections between African and Asian musics. I'd like to see some traditional music while I am there, and maybe some Chinese rock. I'm a big fan of Cui Jian, as well as some of the more recent rock bands. I'm also recommended to check out the "Five Flavors Book Store" in Beijing. Any ideas you could give me would be great, as I've never been to China before. I live near Cleveland, Ohio, USA, where I have studied Chinese music since 1990 (I play sheng, houguan, xun, suona, yehu, sanxian, etc.). Badagnani 11:59, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Seals

Thank you for your additions to Seal (Chinese)!
-- Миборовский U|T|C|E 03:18, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Go equipment article

Hi there. I know you're working on that Go equipment article and you may have seen a few contributions I did for it. I'm curious what more you want to do with it. Do you want to get into really specific areas? One that came to mind are the Ing stones and bowls, though I'm sure there are others one could get into. Let me know. Perhaps I could help. --Sivak 22:19, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

Very nice photo. Badagnani 14:47, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jianpu and Gongchi pu

Welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for the additional information on jianpu. See if you can also help to expand the article gongchi notation. -- Felix Wan 03:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guqin recordings

Do you have any copyleft/public domain recordings that could be used in the Guqin article? (I could help walk you through the process of making them, if you want) Raul654 11:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goose-tail?

Dear CharlieHuang, Why did you change "tail" to "goose-tail" in the description of clerical script on the E. Asian calligraphy page? Is this a common English description? If so, can you provide a reference? Or is it your translation from Chinese, in which case could you please provide the characters for goose tail? Providing explanations of and references for changes you make is better than just changing things without explaining it. Thanks in advance for your clarification. Cheers!Dragonbones 03:04, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Calligrapher Qu Leilei called it a 'goose-tail' stroke when I had a calligraphy workshop with him on the 18th March at the Royal Academy of Arts in London at the Three Emperors exhibition. He also called the beginning backward stroke 'silken-hands' or something which I can't remember so I didn't put that in there. That's why I put it there; because he called it that so it must be a correct term for the stroke. --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 17:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC) "
Thanks for your response! I have been tracking the answer down in the meantime, and discovered the expression "silkworm head and wild goose tail" in Chinese. Very interesting! But since it's not a standard English expression, rather than introducing it as and English 'term', I've rewritten it as follows: "Most noticeable is the dramatically flared tail of one dominant horizontal or downward-diagonal stroke, especially that to the lower right. This characteristic stroke has famously been called 'silkworm head and wild goose tail' (蠶頭雁尾 cántóu yànwěi）in Chinese due to its distinctive shape." This certainly adds some color, no? :) BTW, I've been doing some reading on ancient scripts, from oracle bones to seal script, and have discovered that the main way to write was always with a brush, not carving in bone or wood or casting in bronzes. There's a popular misconception about this because it's mainly the harder, carved materials which survived. This is relevant to a recent addition of yours on seal script; just FYI. You might want to read Qiu Xigui for a serious but readable intro on the topic (see references on Asian Calligraphy page). Cheers!Dragonbones 01:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seven Sages

Just wanted to say that I think your template for the Seven Sages of the Bamboo Grove looks really nice. Keep up the good work. -Colin Kimbrell 21:16, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questions

I'm very glad to see you got some sound samples on Guqin. I had a couple of questions - (1) Did you have any problems taking hte samples you recorded, converting them into ogg, uploading them, and linking from the article? Is there anything in the documentation that could be improved? (2) Now that I can hear what a Guqin sounds like, I am extremely curious - what would Pachelbel's Canon (my favorite piece of classical music) sound like on the Guqin? Raul654 11:09, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guqin

Why is there only the traditional chinese symbols and not the simplified type for Guqin? Bibliomaniac15 00:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Award

HA HA HA! I don't know what a "bi disc" is but I'm very proud to have it. Thanks! Badagnani 22:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's very attractive and enhances the aesthetics of my user page, adding a distinctly Asian touch--appropriate since I work on a lot of articles about Asian music, food, etc. It reminds me of the old Chinese coins with the hole in the middle. You'd better take a look at the copyright status of that photo; it seems unclear but as someone has submitted their photo details it shouldn't be difficult to get the right copyright notice there. Otherwise it could disappear at any moment. Badagnani 22:31, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage "me" table

Hi there! I just checked your profile and saw that you have a table just like mine on your page (just like an old version of mine, actually, since I have since added neat expandable userbox tables). Did you get it from mine? Because if so, that is really cool! Goes to show what a small world this is, I guess. —Michiel Sikma, 06:59, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sanxian

Hi! Great work on Chinese Music. I myself am trying to help to contribute to the articles on Chinese and Japanese music. I was just wondering how you made the chinese instrument userboxes, and whether it would be possible to add one for the sanxian? I'm starting to play it. I'm quite new to this, but I'll be making userboxes for Japanese instruments when I start playing the koto.

Good luck with your manga!

Dæmon 11:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxes

I see what you mean. I wouldn't want to force more work on you, so I'll do them, but I'll probably only start in 2-4 weeks time. Thanks for the pointer though. I'll definitely set aside time to do that.

Dæmon 10:36, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jieshi Diao Youlan

If you want to contribute the original chinese text of the manuscript, I'm sure wikisource would gladly accept it. We can link to that from the article and it'll be easily accessible. Night Gyr 15:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smile!

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Qintech Pi.PNG

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[edit] Playing technique images

Hi there. Since you're the main contributor to the Guqin article, I feel I should ask this: do you have the original versions of the playing technique images (without the white lines drawn on, such as here: Image:Qintech_Gun.jpg)? I personally find the white aliased lines to be quite ugly, and would like to replace them with more proper and anti-aliased lines. The Guqin article is my favorite of all Wikipedia articles that I've seen so far, by the way. It's pretty amazing how much information is in it, and how you even linked a lot of Chinese characters to Wiktionary entries. Great job on that! —Michiel Sikma, 22:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yayue/liyue

Charlie, as the resident expert on ancient Chinese/Confucian music here, can you check my addition to the Yayue article that a synonym is "liyue"? (In Korea it's called "yeak.") Badagnani 22:13, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I'd better remove that, then. It comes from Korean music. There's an Isang Yun piece called "Reak" whose title is derived from this term "ritual music" (yeak / ryeak) and I guessed the term came from China. Badagnani 18:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:96px-Lian Zhu - Shi - horizontal.jpg

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[edit] Origin of suona

Which Wei Dynasty? It sounds right, but do you have a source for this? People will use our article as a source and I want it to be right. Wang Min's dissertation (done here at my university a few years ago) would probably say as well. Badagnani 11:04, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chulhyungum

Hi Charlie, hope you enjoyed California. I love it myself, personally. I've never seen this instrument anywhere else and it's worth sending an email to Prof. Garfias to see what he thinks. But I don't know, maybe it's some kind of one-off home-rigged thing. Essentially it's like some kind of Korean dobro, I think. The player is amazing, with amazing control. I love this recording. Badagnani 23:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

He did previously have a description of this instrument on his "sounds" page but unfortunately that page seems to be down, with no Google cache. Too bad. You might let him know about that if you write to him. Badagnani 23:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Good work! I don't know how that page got un-linked on his site but I'm glad it's still there, because it's a magnificent service that he puts these things there for us. Look at the fretting on that thing! Pretty wild. I am pretty sure it's a one-of-a-kind instrument but I may be wrong. Badagnani 23:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding {{Qin project}}

It might be confused with the Qin Dynasty... although there isn't one such project. May I suggest a rename to {{Guqin project}}? -- Миборовский 02:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks. -- Миборовский 12:10, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Laruan

Hi Charlie, we need the tone for the first syllable of Laruan. I can't figure it out because the Wiktionary article for "la" has so many different tones listed! Is it the same tone as the "la" in "la mian"? Badagnani 05:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zu or zhu?

Hi Charlie, shouldn't the instrument named in the Gao Jianli article be the zhu, not zu? Badagnani 18:42, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I've made the change, and added two of the three films about Gao Jianli. Do you think Zhang Yimou's "Hero" be added? Apparently the character isn't given the name Gao Jianli in that film. Badagnani 18:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Utada in Chinese

Charlie, were you aware of this? Badagnani 04:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Super Girl contestant Shang Wenjie copied Utada down to the fast vibrato (but this singer doesn't have as much style). But how did they get the syllables to match? I understand that when Asian songs are copied from language to language the original lyrics suffer, because they're totally rewritten and sometimes the meaning of the new lyrics is completely different. Can you get a sense of if the Chinese version is about the same thing? Badagnani 18:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qin festival in Beijing

Hi Charlie, thought you might be interested in this: http://qin.ccom.edu.cn/ Badagnani 07:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article about Wikipedia Users

Hello,

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If anybody else, other than this user is interested in participating, feel free to email me as well. This article is intended to be a light informational piece, nothing too heavy or controversial, just merely introducing readers to a subculture that they likely had no idea existed. So please don’t email me with your conspiracy theories, or your grudge against the Wikipedia hierarchy… unless it directly applies to your overall experience with the site. This article is about the USERS, not about the pros and cons of the site itself.

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[edit] Edit Summary

Hi, Your making some great edits to Wikipedia, but I've noticed a few edits on my Watchlist where you've not used an Edit Summary, even this small 30 second action can be a great help to Wikipedia, as it allows RC and Vandalism patrollers to better understand why and edit has been made and what was done. Once again, many thanks for your edits to Wikipedia. Best wishes and Kind Regards - Heligoland | Talk | Contribs 00:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Charlie Boy

Hi Charlie: This is Mei Sie from Bellingham, WA, US. I just start to play guqin, wanna talk? My teacher is a classmate of Li Xiangting and Gong Yi. His name is WU Ziying and he is from Shanghai. He was the Chair of the Shanghai Guqin Assn and now he lives in the States near Seattle. -- Mei Sie

  • Hi Mei Sie. It would be better to bring the discussion onto my music forum (look under Links at the top). I can respond more effectively there. --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 16:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need hanzi help

Hi Charlie, I've just noticed that there are some alternate spellings for yazheng/yaqin/ajaeng. Can you check Traditional Chinese musical instruments and look at the hidden tag I've put next to "yazheng" and check your sources? There seem to be three characters used and I'm not sure which is the most accurate. Also, the Koreans often use a slightly different character for the same instrument. The spellings are 雅筝, 轧筝, and 牙筝, of which the last one seems to be used as the Korean hanja. There are some pages for these things, such as http://www.hawh.cn/Template/article/display31.jsp?mid=20050112108494 Thanks! Badagnani 06:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I think I've figured it out (and made the requisite changes). The first character, 雅, is the one for yayue, so that's not right. The second character, 轧, is the one for yazheng, and the third character, 牙, is the one Koreans use for their ajaeng. Badagnani 14:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Qinxue Congshu ISBN

  • Hi Charlie, I need a little translation here please. I am merely one of a number of editors attempting to resolve over 2000 ISBN errors so that we may electronically convert the older 10 digit system to the newer 13 digit isbn system. If you are writing in regards to a page that I noted with a , you will note that at the bottom of that page there is also a flag note stating that this flag had an invalid isbn. If I made an inadvertent correction, please accept my apology. I am using a number of different research tools in an attempt to resolve isbn's in error. Please send me the name of the page name that you are asking about or the wikipedia url. I appreciate your support in resolving this matter. Ekotkie 15:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  • The page in question is the guqin one. I have found and corrected the ISBN (I mistyped one number because it wasn't clearly printed on my copy of the book). --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 15:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I somewhat recognized the cover page. Thank you for your assistance in correcting this matter. I was only interested in locating a correct 10 digit isbn. Wiki has a bot ready to go back through the entire library and convert over to the 13 digit isbn. There still is some concern about making this final move to 13 digit. I too understand the issue of making a typing error. I have made a number of them. Sometimes it comes from attempting to insert the hyphen into their proper location. I have quit using hyphen's all together. Most of the large catalog users only give a single string of numbers without hyphens. A final not, I hope that when you placed the correct isbn into its location that you also removed the error notification template that was originally placed by the reviewing bot. If you don't remove the template, a "invalid ISBN" statement will appear at the bottom of the page. Charlie, have a great day and thanks again for your help. Ekotkie 16:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hong Kong Wiki page

Hi Charlie. Could you do me a big favor and please check your Hong Kong library for the following citation here on Wiki: Hong Kong and a cited reference, Mathematical Modelling of Hong Kong Political and Economical Development by Derek Lam.

The ISBN (10 digit would be fine) as cited is incorrect and a "Invalid ISBN" tag is located at the bottom of the page. If you can locate this book and ISBN,. Please go ahead and fix the error. I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Ed_K Ekotkie 17:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Charlie, I thank you for the assist and will duly note yours and my efforts. I tend to suspect a 23 page "book". It may well have been a thesis paper. Why it ended up with an ISBN is beyond me. I'll turn this over to the team leader and press on. We still have close to 2000 items to check out. I try to give a good search of foreign but sometimes its just better to have a contact in that language country. Again, thank you and I'll keep your name in my contact file. I would rather drop the ISBN all together and leave the source info for some other hardy soul to go dig for. Have a great day. Ed_KEkotkie 22:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contemporary guqin players

Hi, I have suggested a move of this article to "List of contemporary guqin players". If you have any objections, please mention them at Talk:Contemporary guqin players. --Ideogram 22:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links at Guqin

The opinion that there were too many links at Guqin was just that, an opinion. I don't think you had to feel a necessity to remove any as the editor didn't say which ones s/he felt were extraneous. Other edits by this editor weren't helpful to the various music articles s/he edited over the past days, and some showed a lack of understanding of our practice as regards redirects, etc. Badagnani 10:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding edits to Qin schools

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[edit] Any idea what this instrument is?

Image:Chinesezither.jpg Is it a yazheng or yaqin? Or a guqin? The stick makes me think it's a yaqin. Probably not a zhu, from its shape. I'm unsure of the date of the engraving. Badagnani 02:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, she's holding the stick so daintily I wonder how she gets any sound whatsoever. I see 7 strings. Any idea of the time period? It's an all-female group, playing old-style instruments including konghou--maybe Tang or Sung? See Konghou and Yunluo for other clips I've made from this engraving. Badagnani 10:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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