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[edit] Welcome

Welcome to the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject! We're looking forward to any future edits you can make to tropical cyclones, and we're happy to have you on board. Current projects include bettering the existing articles on retired hurricanes to GA or FA status. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Here's the latest version of our monthly newsletter. Enjoy! Hurricanehink (talk) 13:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Number 1, June 4, 2006

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary of the activities of the WikiProject over the past month and upcoming events over the next month. In addition monthly tropical cyclone activity will be summarized.

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Storm of the month

Typhoon Chanchu near its peak intensity
Typhoon Chanchu was the first typhoon and first super typhoon of the 2006 Pacific typhoon season. Forming on May 9 over the open western Pacific Ocean, Chanchu moved over the Philippines on the 11th. There, it dropped heavy rainfall, causing mudslides, crop damage, and 41 deaths. It moved into the South China Sea, where it rapidly strengthened to a super typhoon on May 14, one of only two super typhoons recorded in the sea. It turned to the north, weakened, and struck the Fujian province of China as a minimal typhoon on the 17th. The typhoon flooded 192 houses, while heavy rainfall caused deadly mudslides. In China, Chanchu caused at least 25 deaths and $480 million in damage (2006 USD). Elsewhere on its path, strong waves from the typhoon sank eleven Vietnamese ships, killing at least 44 people. In Taiwan, heavy rainfall killed two people, while in Japan, severe waves killed one person and injured another.

Other tropical cyclone activity

New articles and improvements wanted

Member of the month

This isn't the generic barnstar, we just don't have a WPTC star yet…

The May member of the month is TitoXD. The WikiProject awards this to him for his brilliant work in improving articles. TitoXD joined the WikiProject in October just after it had been founded. Since then he has contributed substantially to many articles, for example Hurricane Nora (1997), which is currently a Featured Article Candidate. He is also actively involved in the assessment of articles and so helps to improve many more articles.

Explanation of content

If you have a topic which is not directly related to any specific article but is relevant to the WikiProject bring it up on the Newsletters talk page, and it will probably be included in a future edition of The Hurricane Herald.

These two sections are decided by the community on the newsletter's talk page:

  • Storm of the month: This is determined by a straw poll on the page. While all storms will be mentioned on the newsletter, the selected storm will be described in more detail.
  • Member of the month: Nominations are made on the talk page, voting is by secret ballot; read the talk page for details. The winner receives the WikiProject's barnstar (when we make it).

Main Page content

Storm article statistics

Grade April May June
Featured article FA 7 7 10
A 4 5 7
Good article GA 0 3 5
B 62 66 82
Start 154 177 168
Stub 13 12 10
Total 240 263 282
percentage
Less than B
69.6 71.6 63.1

The assessment scale

  • The cyclone assessment scale is one of the bases of the new assessment scale for Version 1.0 of Wikipedia. It splits articles into several categories by quality, to identify which articles are "finished" and which ones still need to be improved.
  • The assessment scale by itself counts of several grades:
    • FA: reserved for articles that have been identified as featured content only.
    • A: this grade is given to articles that are considered ready for Wikipedia:peer review. The way to get this grade assigned to an article is by asking other cyclone editors at the WikiProject's assessment page.
    • GA: reserved for articles that have passed a good article nomination.
    • B: these articles are "halfway there", and have most of the details of a complete article, yet it still has significant gaps in its coverage.
    • Start: articles that fall in this category have a decent amount of content, yet it is weak in many areas. Be bold and feel free to improve them!
    • Stub: these articles are mostly placeholders, and may in some cases be useless for the reader. It needs a lot of work to be brought to A-Class level.
  • The way to use these assessments is by adding a parameter to the WikiProject template on the articles talk page ({{hurricane|class=B}} as an example). This feeds the article into a category which is read and parsed to create an assessment table, summary and log.

Here's some pointers to making a good tropical cyclone article. Dear Tropical cyclone editor,

As a member of the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject, you are receiving this message to describe how you can better tropical cyclone articles. There are hundreds of tropical cyclone articles, though many of them are poorly organized and lacking in information. Using the existing featured articles as a guide line, here is the basic format for the ideal tropical cyclone article.

  1. Infobox- Whenever possible, the infobox should have a picture for the tropical cyclone. The picture can be any uploaded picture about the storm, though ideally it should be a satellite shot of the system. If that is not available, damage pictures, either during the storm or after the storm, are suitable. In the area that says Formed, indicate the date on which the storm first developed into a tropical depression. In the area that says Dissipated, indicate the date on which the storm lost its tropical characteristics. This includes when the storm became extratropical, or if it dissipated. If the storm dissipated and reformed, include the original start date and the final end date. Highest winds should be the local unit of measurement for speed (mph in non-metric countries, km/h in metric countries), with the other unit in parenthesis. The lowest pressure should be in mbars. Damages should, when available, be in the year of impact, then the present year. The unit of currency can be at your discretion, though typically it should be in USD. Fatalities indicate direct deaths first, then indirect deaths. Areas affected should only be major areas of impact. Specific islands or cities should only be mentioned if majority of the cyclone's effects occurred there.
  2. Intro- The intro for every article should be, at a minimum, 2 paragraphs. For more impacting hurricanes, it should be 3. The first should describe the storm in general, including a link to the seasonal article, its number in the season, and other statistics. The second should include a brief storm history, while the third should be impact.
  3. Storm history- The storm history should be a decent length, relatively proportional to the longevity of the storm. Generally speaking, the first paragraph should be the origins of the storm, leading to the system reaching tropical storm status. The second should be the storm reaching its peak. The third should be post-peak until landfall and dissipation. This section is very flexible, depending on meteorological conditions, but it should generally be around 3. Storm histories can be longer than three paragraphs, though they should be less than five. Anything more becomes excessive. Remember, all storm impacts, preparations, and records can go elsewhere. Additional pictures are useful here. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its peak, use a landfall picture in the storm history. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its landfall, use the peak. If the landfall is its peak, use a secondary peak, or even a random point in the storm's history.
  4. Preparations- The preparations section can be any length, depending on the amount of preparations taken by people for the storm. Hurricane watches and warnings need to be mentioned here, as well as the number of people evacuated from the coast. Include numbers of shelters, and other info you can find on how people prepared for the storm.
  5. Impact- For landfalling storms, the impact section should be the majority of the article. First, if the storm caused deaths in multiple areas, a death table would work well in the top level impact section. A paragraph of the general effects of the storm is also needed. After the intro paragraph, impact should be broken up by each major area. It depends on the information, but sections should be at least one paragraph, if not more. In the major impact areas, the first paragraph should be devoted to meteorological statistics, including rainfall totals, peak wind gusts on land, storm surge, wave heights, beach erosion, and tornadoes. The second should be actual damage. Possible additional paragraphs could be detailed information on crop damage or specifics. Death and damage tolls should be at the end. Pictures are needed, as well. Ideally, there would be at least one picture for each sub-section in the impact, though this sometimes can't happen. For storms that impact the United States or United States territories, this site can be used for rainfall data, including an image of rainfall totals.
  6. Aftermath- The aftermath section should describe foreign aid, national aid, reconstruction, short-term and long-term environmental effects, and disease. Also, the storm's retirement information, whether it happened or not, should be mentioned here.
  7. Records- This is optional, but can't hurt to be included.
  8. Other- The ideal article should have inline sourcing, with the {{cite web}} formatting being preferable. Always double check your writing and make sure it makes sense.

Good luck with future writing, and if you have a question about the above, don't hesitate to ask.


Sure :) What sort of things do you plan on doing here at the project? Just curious. Hurricanehink (talk) 13:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, that works. Hurricanehink (talk) 12:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re RFA

I answered your queistion in my RFA. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 04:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #2

The July issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Hello

Hello from a "newbie", could you please enable your email? I'd like to email you something. Chacor 14:22, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

May I ask, what do you want to email me? -- RattleMan 14:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
OK...I guess it should work now. -- RattleMan 14:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Re:Typhoon Ewiniar and activity

Well techincally (by the link you gave to me), Typhoon Ewiniar (now a depression) has winds of 30 kt, possibly winds of 25 mph. But nonetheless, it also stated that the depression may be activity but is now a 70% extratropical low and extratropical lows are not tropical cyclones, nor tropical depressions. Well if you look at the US Navy NRL link, it shows clearly that Ewiniar has already dissipated as seen in the active storm chart. But anyhow, it is on the verge to dissipation, or it will become a mid-latitude cyclone. Alastor Mad-Eye Moody 01:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, no offenses. Well I think I have read something wrong but then do you want me to revert my edits and state is now active again? Or do want to leave it since it is on the verge to become extratropical? Alastor Mad-Eye Moody 01:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Alastor Moody's comments on my talk page

Just to let you know, I think you incorrectly posted the following message to Alastor Moody on my talk page instead of his:

Alastor, anyone can edit Wikipedia. There is no rule saying what he can and cannot edit. Chacor 06:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Nevertheless, thanks for the support :). — Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 12:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Depression Five-E Disscussion

Okay listen, if you don't care what I put up at the 2006 Pacific hurricane season disscusion page just simply ignore it or don't look at it; you don't really need to confess about everything unless you have somthing to say about it (for example, if I or someone else puts up wrong or mistaken info). And also, who else dosen't care about what I say (as you wrote on that disscusion page). Please don't take offense and start minor problems, instead you can just help Wikipedia on tropical cyclones (if you wish to).

P.S. We are not all hurricane experts. Alastor Moody (talk) 05:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editing Your User Page

In addition, I know and admit it that I have edited your user page, but did you read the history part of your user page, because I initally said sorry as explained down here (which too says on your history page),

"I apologize that I edited your user page, but I discovered a small error inside which I fixed for you."

Anyhow, rather than vandalizing your page or being rude, I was actually helping you cause as stated above, there really was a small error in your user page that I fixed for you. Nonetheless, you did not even put up a warning sign of editing your page to other users as I did to my user page. If you want to caopy my warning, feel free to do so. Also, please do not start arguements or become offensive for small events that really dosen't mean anything. Alastor Moody (talk) 06:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Your comments to me

Okay, I know that I'm not a hurricane expert but if you don't know, I simply copy down the information and forecasts from the NHC, which proves that I am not a hurricane expert. I know we all have many different opinions, but you don't need to critize me about that since it is none of your business. And also, what do you mean I am not well placed to talk about these things? Also, why I edited your user page was that I was helping you, not destroying your user page. And also, next time you want to confess, think about what to do rather than just blurting out things because you have already strated a commotion and no, I did not start this, because you came into this and made problems that don't mean anything at all. And if you don't want me around you, then stop causing problems to me. Alastor Moody (talk) 21:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for correcting me on the "tD" mistake I introduced in the 2006 Pacific typhoon season! The problem I have is that I find "The JMA upgrades TD (the same system as 06W) to Tropical Storm Kaemi" is difficult to read. Maybe it it could be rephrased as "The JMA upgrades TD 06W to Tropical Storm Kaemi", or is that incorrect too? -- Koffieyahoo 08:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll change the text to "JMA re-designated TS06W as TS Kaemi", which is much better. -- Koffieyahoo 05:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] O-TOWN

I think that, to a newbie, a link to WP:RFC probably doesn't even mean anything. I think we'll have to figure out some other way to get across to him that our primary mission here is to build an encyclopedia, not to just speak his mind or create a profile (100+ of his less-than-300 edits have been to his user page). Perhaps WP:AN/I first? —AySz88\^-^ 06:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Hello

Sorry, I don't have it set-up (at the moment). If you want to talk to me there, I'll get it set up over the next few days and poke you when its done.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I've got it working now (I think). My username on IRC is the same as my WP one.--Nilfanion (talk) 14:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NationStates

That shows how much I'm on it nowadays. I've submitted a request to be reinstated as a nation. Thanks for giving me the heads-up! Ian Manka Talk to me! 01:02, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclone disscussions

If you never knew, please stop insulting about me in tropical disscussion pages for that it is very rude behavior. Alastor Moody (talk) 05:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Well if I made mistakes, just ignore them. And also, I am not your business so don't bother me and talk about me to other users or in disscussion pages. And if you don't want any trouble, don't go looking for it, especially by pulling it on me. Alastor Moody (talk) 09:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Anyhow, I don't care what ever you are saying. But DO NOT EVER PICK ON ME BY "FIXING" MY MISTAKES AND LEAVE ME ALONE! Alastor Moody (talk) 21:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I blanked my hatemail page and crossed it out. Happy? Gosh, leave me alone. Alastor Moody (talk) 02:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

About the wind speeds in the 2006 Northwest typhoon basin, I noticed you have changed the wind sppeds from mph to knots. Your edit has not been reverted but, the article would be more easy to read if you pur both the mph speeds together. Alastor Moody (talk) 00:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Hello

I don't suppose you use IRC on freenode? Chacor 13:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I use it once in awhile, but I'm not really proficient in it. Did you want to talk to me on IRC? -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 13:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Preferably, please, yes. Chacor 13:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I normally connect to IRC through Opera, but I'm at work, so I'm going to have to download Opera first (unless there is a better alternative). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 13:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
That is not a problem, I can wait, but preferably would like to talk today about some users, including yourself (you'll find out why later). Chacor 13:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
No problem; it won't be long, hopefully. And I'm not too busy right now. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 13:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, one thing - I'd prefer to make first contact, rather than you contacting me (you'll find out why, as I said above), so when you're on could you send me a talk message with your IRC name? Thanks! Chacor 13:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm having trouble connecting to IRC. Opera won't connect to the Internet and I'm not familiar with mIRC (although it looks like I am doing it correctly). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 14:00, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Firewall, then? I guess I could take the long way and email you... Chacor 14:00, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
No problem, although you could try to contact me on AIM (or Yahoo! messenger if you must). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 14:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Never mind; that's blocked. However, you can contact me via e-mail. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 14:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IRC

I'm back home, so feel free to contact me once you're available. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 22:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you not around or do I need to register to do one-on-one chats? -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 01:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Forget it; I don't really know how to use IRC (I'm using Trillian, which simplifies things a bit and I don't believe allows for registration). -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 01:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
If you have AIM or Yahoo!, you can IM me there. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 01:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
What IRC program do you use? -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 01:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: IRC

(Stares blankly), Uh, I guess not. However, I use AOL and AIM occassionally. My AOL name is Hurricanehinker[-at-]aol[-dot-]com and my AIM name is HurricaneDrew131. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:2007 season

Oh, ok sorry. I wasn't aware of that. Do you want me to re-upload them at the commons and delete the ones I uploaded here? →Cyclone1 15:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Sigh... ok. →Cyclone1 16:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #3

The August issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:22, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Applecrest Farm Orchards

Could you please explain to me how this isn't notable, even though it's the oldest currently operation apple orchard in the US? Does it really have to be deleted? Can't it just have a cleanup tag? I'll work on it after my wikibreak, maybe a little during it. At least it's sourced, right? íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 00:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical discussions not an online forum

Thank God YOU said something. For the most part I've been driven away by people going "OMG THIS WILL BE A CAT 3 SOMETIME THIS WEEKEND!!!" and five other people fapping happily to their statement. I think I actually tried to get the "betting pools" section deleted last year, but I got a lot of "what does it hurt?" responses, and even one very nasty one. It's gotten way out of hand and I think it needs to be dealt with, the sooner the better. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 19:37, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Hello

No, I don't, sorry. And hi, too :) —Cuiviénen 02:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What I have to say

Okay, If you don't want me to edit your sandbox Ewiniar article, its fine, but please do not pick on me and slyly say that you wasn't giving me a personal attack. I also thought we agreed to stop bugging eachother, right? So please stop it, it is so annoying and Wikipedia is not a place you bug people just because of another's edit. Alastor Moody (talk) 03:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Umm... huh? Chacor 04:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
*gets angry* Why did you erase my Saomai page? Well I know what to are going to say but I put it there so that when its impact results come I just add it on. Now what are you insisting again?!?! Alastor Moody (talk) 10:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: IRC

Could you send me the link again? I have everything else, but I lost the website link. Hurricanehink (talk) 16:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Re: I need conusel

Dont take this personally, what I meant that not all rules on wikipedia are that strict. Sure theres some restriction. But that only applies to things that interfere with the purpose of an encyclopedia. Also see WP:WL. Storm05 16:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I dont know about the essays in the wikipedia polices because to me they are unoffical.Storm05 16:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current event

But not a world news! -- tasc wordsdeeds 06:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: comment

dont take it personally okay, but please stop comming on my talk page every time i make an edit because its annoying and disruptive (i was still adding links when you interrupted). Storm05 16:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Chanchu, JMA

I understand, but I at least shortened the template note to just "JMA" - "JMA categorization" is quite long for the template, and makes it look somewhat cluttered. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 04:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll get right on that. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 04:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
By the way, is there any way we can change the color of the "typhoon" bar? The current color is kind of ugly. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 04:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps use the shade of yellow used in the "B-class" tag? From what I can tell, the template doesn't use that shade, and it's not blue (like TD/TS). That might be a good idea for the time being until someone comes up with a better one. :) --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 05:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:WP:SIG

Just testing my signature. Nonetheless, thanks for your advise. Alastor Moody (talk) 08:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] *cough*

not a surprise *cough*... I surmised it weeks ago, and I'm practically demented -- Samir धर्म 10:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Have to look for the diffs that tipped me off (there was one I remember that practically had NSLE's fingerprint on it :); will give you them soon (off to work now) -- Samir धर्म 10:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Can't find the specific one. It was more the tendency to show up on storm related articles, with a knowledge of areas of Wikipedia beyond experience. On RC patrol, I think I asked myself "gosh, this Chacor guy learned quickly" and then I figured it out in a flash. -- Samir धर्म 00:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I am actively still trying to find Moe Epsilon, as I'm positive that guy's around here too -- Samir धर्म 00:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Halo

Salut, haiduc. ;) - Mailer Diablo 12:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

It's sunt eu, un haiduc, you silly sausage! *whacks MD with rusty prawns* Will (Take me down to the Paradise City) 16:01, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to October 2004 Martinsville plane crash

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[edit] Caught!

Ah ha!, I have revealed your true identiy. You are User:NLSE. But why the name change?Storm05 17:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

No, it's NSLE. But why change your name? Maybe if I SMS you, then will I find out.--Tdxiang Jimbo's 40th Birthday! 03:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Thank you, my dear NSLE! (you'll always be that for me! :) And I don't mean just your kind words, but specially, for sticking here - WP would have suffered a a great loss if you left! Needless to say, just as I had your page on my watchlist, the new one goes right there too. We'll be seeing each other a lot, count on it! :) Hugs, Phaedriel The Wiki Soundtrack! - 06:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my page. --Nlu (talk) 11:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Timeline

All right, that's fine. However, I noticed you mentioned "as I and other users...", but I checked the history and so far, you were the only person to have reverted such edits. — Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 19:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redesigning

Viola! In view, a humble vaudevillian.... I used red because I know you support Liverpool (and are winning, AFAIK) Will (Take me down to the Paradise City) 15:58, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

It's a messy beast of <h4>s, especially with the columns. Will (Take me down to the Paradise City) 16:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

--PEAR 16:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Why would you block me? I'm trying to promote WikiLove. --PEAR 16:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You are NSLE?

Dude, I thought you quit Wikipedia but you came back but why the username change? Just wondering. I thought you were like someone else. Also, you have a great user page, looks similiar to Islenska Hurikein's. Alastor Moody (talk) 20:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)