Talk:Chatswood, New South Wales

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deleted the {{sydney regions}} template because it should only appear in articles that the template links, i.e. other lga's not individual suburb articles. each lga should have it's only template, like template:Sydney Pittwater suburbs, i.e. a template:Sydney Willoughby suburbs needs to be created, and then that template should be added to the chatswood article. clarkk 12:42, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

1 Template of Sydney Willoughby suburbs created
2 Copyright of pictures
3 Merge
4 Chatswood Chase did not open in 1988

[edit] Template of Sydney Willoughby suburbs created

In preparation for updating the Chatswood entry, I have created a template for template:Sydney Willoughby suburbs John_Rotenstein 05:30, 05 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright of pictures

The pictures are on public domain, but do you have permission of everyone on the photos whose faces are recognisable that their images can be on public domain? Cheers.

There is some ongoing debate about this among experts, but from my understanding, the general legal principle as to whether you need permission has to do with whether or not there is an implicit expectation of privacy or not. Walking through a shopping mall, and you have zero expectation of not being seen. Taking photographs is generally treated as just another form of "being seen". As always, pornography is the thing that really pushes the boundaries, so it's where we really get to see what he limits of this principle are. For example, if you stand in a public place, but use a telephoto lens to photograph a glimpse of someone nude in the bedroom of a far-away apartment, then you have violated that person's expectation of privacy. See also: "up-skirt" photos taken in public without consent in US - in this case I would strongly agree that there is an expectation of privacy in this regard. See also questions about US photographer's rights. Finding Australian material is harder, but from my understanding the short answer is: it's nice to ask, but I think not legally required, provided the people being photographed are in public, and what you're photographing is what you would normally see (which is why using photography techniques such as the Sony NightShot to see through clothing is out). I've deliberately used the extreme boundary cases to define the edges of what is and isn't permitted, but a standard photo of people wandering in the mall falls well within those boundaries. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 00:04, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Mako did a merge of Chatswood Westfield and Chatswood Chase into the Chatswood article without asking. I think it's better if there's a consensus to this before that goes ahead (since many other Westfield Shopping Centres have their own articles.) Debate can go below. Abstain (JROBBO 08:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC))

Apologies for taking WP:BB literally and making that change to the Westfield article, the bulk of which I'd written myself. Anyway .... personally I don't see the point in stub articles of a few sentences when that could be included within the main article, and similarly I don't see the point in articles giving detailed information of nature that is temporary (the minor shops, opening hours etc within a shopping centre change frequently and so quickly becomes out of date) when that information already exists on that businesses website, particulary when there is little of note to set the subject apart from similar subjects. As such I'm (obviously) in favour of merging these into the Chatswood article, but at this stage prefer to wait on the outcome of some related dicussions (WP:LOCAL and User:GarrieIrons/All Westfields are the same) before starting the AFD process.--Mako 09:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

That's ok - Chatswood Chase does have some history though - it was quite an early shopping centre in Sydney as far as I remember... is it worth checking that out? (JROBBO 12:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC))

Chatswood Chase opened in 1983, I've no idea what was there previously, though I know Chatswood had a couple of department stores (Woolworths, Waltons) that are long gone so may have been on the site before the Chase. Maybe a trip to the library this weekend is on the cards, I've been meaning to flesh out the history section of Chatswood (and surrounds) for a while now.--Mako 14:37, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

No objection, so I've removed the merge tags and changed the mall stubs into redirects. They can be changed back into articles at a later date if they outgrow this article. -- Mako 12:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't say anything as I assumed that you were going to do some research before deciding whether or not either article had a notable enough history - that was what you said you would do. I'm not too concerned about this - if there is a notable enough history we can always change it back. However, I have one request - can you please merge the articles properly. There was some information and a picture on the other pages which you don't seem to have merged into the article. Can you do that the right way please? (JROBBO 05:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC))

The articles got re-created. Since there's still not really enough in Westfield Chatswood to support an independent article, I have re-proposed the merge. --Elonka 21:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)