Talk:Charles Heidsieck

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Charles Heidsieck is currently a good article nominee. However, an editor has placed this article on hold and is awaiting minor changes to be made as outlined in his/her notes below. This will influence his/her decision in passing or failing the article as a good article. This tag will stay in place for a minimum of 2 days and a maximum of 7. Placement date: 2007-03-26

An entry from Charles Heidsieck appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on February 7, 2007.

[edit] Good Article on hold

I'm putting this on GA hold due to criteria 3a. I don't find it comprehensive enough (no mention of early life, marriages, etc.) Take a look at {{Biography}} for some sections you're missing. The copyrighted images could also use detailed fair use rationales, and the lead image's caption needs expanding. -Malkinann 23:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

This is partly the nature of historical bios, the lack of available information. It is the main reason why an article of this type could never ascend to Featured Article status but was the exact reason why WP:GA was develop to review these articles inherently hindered by a limited scope. I will certainly put in due effort for another look but while I can find numerous sources to back up the information I already have in the article about his accomplishments and why he is notable, I fret that simply is no available reliable sources for some of the more trivial details of his life. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 20:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Update Lead caption has been expanded and detailed fair use added to book cover and dvd cover. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 20:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe put a 'circa' date for the portrait? Thanks for doing the fair use rationale. I appreciate the difficulty of sourcing details on historical figures, but surely details of his wife and children would be in D. & P. Kladstrup's Champagne? (Assuming that you personally have access to a copy, that is. Maybe get the wikiprojects involved?) There is also no information on his death in the article. An infobox would be an improvement to the article. - Malkinann 22:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I own Kladstrup's book and have mined every bit of information it. Other sources like Johnson's & Phillips only back up the same details in Kladstrup book-the important notable aspects of his life. Now the search is moving to the internet with it's less then pristinely reliable sources. I strongly prefer hardcopy sources that have gone through editors and fact checkers but since these extra details are more of less trivial, I suppose internet sources will do. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 19:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• Update After searching through the 3700+ links on google for "Charles Heidsieck" death and "Charles Camille Heidsieck" death, I couldn't find any details about his death. Most likely there was nothing spectacular about his death and was just a quiet end to the man's life. I'm continuing the search for children and so far couldn't find anything on google with "Charles Camille Heidsieck" children but have yet to wade through all the 10,000+ links and translations for "Charles Heidsieck" children. I'm trying. :) Agne^Cheese/^Wine 19:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)