Talk:Charles Emmanuel IV of Sardinia

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Do you have a source for your claims as to the proper titles in use here? "Prince of Piedmont" is normally the title of the heir-apparent, not of the heir-apparent to the heir-apparent, and my understanding was that "Duke of Savoy" was not used as a courtesy title for heirs. But I'm not completely sure. john k 16:19, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

In the case of the titles used by the heirs apparent to the head of the house of Savoy, there are no fixed rules. There are numerous sources which show that Victor Amadeus (III) was styled "Duke of Savoy" until the death of his father King Charles Emanuel III in 1773, and that Charles Emanuel (IV) was styled "Prince of Piedmont" from his birth:

In English: the Court and City Register (1759), and the Gentleman's and Citizen's Almanack (1769 and 1770).

In French: the Almanach royal (1757, 1758, 1766, 1767, 1768, 1770, 1771, 1772).

In Italian: Giovanni Carbonelli, Benedetto XIV al battesimo di Carlo Emanuele IV di Savoia (Torino: R. Streglio, 1906).

I have found only one work which calls Victor Amadeus (III) "Prince of Piedmont" during the lifetime of his father (instead of "Duke of Savoy"); this is A Companion to the Almanack (Jeffreys, 1753). Noel S. McFerran