Talk:Characters of Final Fantasy VIII

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[edit] Rewrite

The rewrite is complete. Teggles has added a merchandise section, which has potential to be a good couple paragraphs of great out of universe info. Back when the character section of the FF8 article was extremely large, it had details on individual characters; those have been added. — Deckiller 04:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible that the FFXII Character List could also be done in the same way? Bluerです。なにか? 08:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Definitely. By the way, I re-added the spoiler tag, since we still haven't come to the consensus if we can exclude them from the "not so obvious" articles yet (although we can probably sneak a total ban into the manual of style). — Deckiller 16:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
In that case, we'll start out with references - in-game dialogs, just like this page had. Impressive listing by the way. I'd do it, but I have exams coming up so maybe I'll drop in some time. Bluerです。なにか? 08:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good. — Deckiller 16:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Let me clarify in case anyone has doubts about this just being a list expansion: this is a brand new article that combines elements from an old version of the FF8 article, expanded and rewritten informtion from each character article, the character list for the minor characters, and brand new sections. I just moved the character list over to this name to make less redirects, but it is still more or less a brand new, integrated article. — Deckiller 14:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Laugana as Squalls dad

i know it's mentioned in the main article of squall, but shouldn't it be put on this page as well? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jammi568 (talk • contribs) 08:41, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

It's hinted at enough so that it doesn't appear to be original research. — Deckiller 16:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Here's the line: After Raine dies, her child (implied by Ward and Kiros to be Squall), along with Ellone, is sent to an orphanage.. — Deckiller 16:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

but shouldn't we put that on the Squall bit as well? Because i'm sure more people are going to be looking for him then some unimportant character who's briefly mentioned and seen at the beginning of the second disk. Jammi568 08:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

This article presents an overview of a major character. Notice how Squall and Rinoa's sections are merely a paragraph each. Further details go in the main articles for the character. For something like the theory of Laguna being Squall's dad, it's more appropriate to just have it in the main article. Bhamv 12:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
That'd be fine if Laguna had a main article anymore! Seems it's been deleted. --MimiSard 15:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed the article does mention the father-son speculation in Laguna's section: After Raine dies, her child (who Ward and Kiros imply to be Squall in a conversation aboard the Ragnarok) and Ellone are sent to an orphanage. Bhamv 08:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

okay, that's fine then, i just thought we should explore all avenues Jammi568 14:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Differences with other Final Fantasy game character pages

Clearly this is more than a list of characters, but I am curious as to why the extra information is not in the main Final Fantasy VIII article so this could be moved to List of Final Fantasy VIII characters in order to be consistent across the series. Is there a discussion of this anywhere? QmunkE 21:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The main article is already a featured article that would be too long if much of this information is transferred. See WP:FICT. If nothing else, I would prefer that all FF articles were more like this one, as this is much better than the simple list it was previously. Peptuck 21:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
The others will be following suit, although they might have less out of universe information available. The main article essensially adopts summary style; details on how the cast was created were trimmed significantly on the main article for it to adhere to FA standards, and yesterday I dug them up, along with some new info, to provide more out of universe information for this article. Wikipedia has come to the point where it does not allow articles to be merely plot summaries, so those other lists will need to conform to this style. — Deckiller 21:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA nom

Hi; I'd like to nominate this article for GA status, but we still need sources for the kingdom hearts claims. Does anyone have the game manual? If not, I can use the website and/or script cites. — Deckiller 01:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I have the KH manual (as well as the KH2 manual). What do you need, specifically? I also have access to the Jiminy Journals (equivalent to the Clan Primer of FFXII, I suppose) of both games, if it comes to that. I'll copyedit and proofread tomorrow when I'm not dead tired. Axem Titanium 04:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, never mind; the KH info has been cited. Looking forward to that proofread. — Deckiller 05:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merchandise image?

Anyone think an image of a set of action figures or something like that might fly in the merchandise section to illustrate it? — Deckiller 18:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[1]? Kariteh 19:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
That might work. — Deckiller 19:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
On second thought, I found an image of various FF8 pencaps; that might fit the section more. — Deckiller 19:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA pass

I have reviewed this article for GA criteria and passed it! The article has a good lead section, good information, and good references. The images seem to illustrate the article well. It is also stable looking at the history. I can't think of areas to improve so I recommend Peer Review and possibly nominating for Featured status soon. Funpika 22:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyediting discussion

Against instinct, I removed a reference in Irvine's section because I felt it didn't really contribute anything outside of plot. Also, I was going to rearrange Edea's section but I'd like some input first. As it is now, it talks about her in the order that it is revealed in game (roughly). I was wondering if it would be better to rearrange it so it fits within the chronology of the game, like it is with the other characters' sections. Also, I've been looking at the game's script but I'd like to know if I can't add any more stuff that Zell and Selphie did that could be put into their "role in the game" paragraph. As of right now, theirs' seem small compared to the others'. Axem Titanium 01:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The information should be presented as it appears in the game to adhere to an out of universe perspective. I agree that Selphie and Zell should have some more details. — Deckiller 03:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I gave the article a quick trimming. I think it still needs work, namely in section standardization and prose tweaks, before we can submit it for FAC. — Deckiller 00:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
"Editors of Electronic Gaming Monthly (2004). Final Fantasy VIII PS Review. 1UP.com. Retrieved on March 15, 2007."
This link appears to be broken. Has it been moved somewhere else on the site or shall we link to a Wayback Machine archive? Kariteh 18:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Fixed; found the same review on findarticles.com. — Deckiller 18:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured

The article has been featured! — Deckiller 05:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Woot! Break out the champagne! Awesome work, Deckiller! :D Peptuck 05:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Congrats man. Kudos to you. :) Bhamv 05:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
And Axem, Teggles, and everyone as well! Thanks guys :) — Deckiller 06:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Great job. We're awesome. Congrats, yo! Axem Titanium 19:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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