Talk:Champagne (wine region)

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[edit] GA review

This article is reasonably well-written, although editors might consider a good copyedit to refine the prose a bit further, as it can get a bit awkward at times. It describes the history of the region quite well, and goes into very good detail with regards to the wine & champaigne production. However, it pretty much stops there. If the article is about a province in France, I would expect to see information about the government and politics of the province, as well as the culture of the people. What about the demographics of the population, transportation, economy, sports, etc? Certainly, the people living here do more than drink champaigne! The article is titled 'Champagne (province)', which tells me it should be about a geographic locale, and should go into more depth about the location, instead of concentrating on one aspect of the economy. Editors might even consider putting all of the champaigne/wine production related materials in one section, with a link to a separate article on that aspect alone, since it appears to be quite major.

If I were to rate this article, I'd put it somewhere between start-class & B-class. It's a bit more of a start, but just barely. It's missing a lot of information.

It might be helpful to review WP:CITE for info on citing sources, as well as the good article criteria and the manual of style.

Good luck! Dr. Cash 04:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Well this article is actually more about the wine region then the governmental locale/sports teams/etc. However, I can see the confusion with title. As a former, GA reviewer I am well aware of WP:CITE, WP:WIAGA, and WP:MOS so I was hoping for something a tad more specific in terms of improvement. Since the titling seems to be the major issue, I'll retitle the article more appropriately. Other then that, I'm not sure what more would need to be done based on this review? Agne^Cheese/^Wine 18:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

GA passed. The confusion about the scope has been addressed. I'm particularly impressed with the scrupulous sourcing and pleasing prose. Congratulations on this very well done article! Sandstein 05:39, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

After a second review, I concur that this article is well written and well-sourced. However, the only comment I would have is regarding the map image at the top, which is identical to the article you've not created on the French province of Champagne. Is the "wine region" contiguous with the french province, or is the wine production in the region centered around a smaller region within the province, or does it consist of mainly regions within the french province with overlapping areas in other nearby provinces. I won't challenge the GA status on this article, but I do believe that this needs to be clarified better. Dr. Cash 03:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Well Champagne (wine) is legally defined as any wine made within the Champagne (province) and with the high value of that name recognition there are producers in nearly every village in the province with vineyards scattered throughout. I would say they are contiguous. I can see where the confusion lies and will think of a way to better clarify that. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA/R

I didn't see anyone say it, so I will, this article has been listed on WP:GA/R for a Good Article review. Homestarmy 21:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)