Talk:Chaim Topol

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Contents 1 Name of Birthplace 2 Criticism wording 3 Pronunciation of surname 4 GREAT PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE

[edit] Name of Birthplace

IN 1935, there was no such state as Israel. I'm guessing that at the time of Topol's birth, his birthplace was called Palestine. Should this be acknowledged, and can anyone confirm either way? JackofOz 09:11, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Strictly speaking you are correct, but the convention is to write Israel in such cases. For example, my mother was born in 1943, but her passport and all official documents, including international documents, list "Israel" as her country of birth. --Woggly 09:44, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

There is no "convention". The state of Israel did not exist at the time and Mandate of Palestine should be Chaim's correct place of birth. The change thereof is most likely due to subjective, retroactive political maneuvering of a much disputed legacy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.156.234.50 (talk • contribs).

Yes there is such a convention, and it is respected by many countries outside of Israel. The fact is that the subjects of the then British Mandate of Palestine became citizens of Israel when Israel was established, and retained no rights as British subjects. The British Mandate of Palestine no longer exists. Nor are people born in this same territory prior to 1922 under the Ottoman empire considered Turkish nowadays. While I see nothing wrong with the solution that has evolved on Wikipedia (See, for example: Daniel Kahneman) which gives the readers the option of reading up on their history, the flat out statement "there is no convention" is simply wrong. --woggly 06:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism wording

"Despite some unjustified criticism that he has received over the years for supposedly using "cute" acting tricks.."

Who's to say the criticism was unjustified? I believe removal of the word unjustified would be a suitable remedy.

[edit] Pronunciation of surname

Does anyone know the correct pronunciation of the name "Topol"? I always assumed it was TOE-POLE (both syllables stressed), but I have heard it as ta-PAUL (in the same manner as the Star Trek: Enterprise character T'Pol.)65.213.220.62 20:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)databoyecho@aol.com

No, the stress is on the first syllable. "TOE-pole" or "TUH-pole" are decent approximations. -woggly 06:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GREAT PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE

I wanted to add this to his filmography, as he appeared as a character, and was the executive producer, but I am having a hard time finding any information about the mini-series, should I just leave it out? JN322 16:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)