Talk:Centennial Light
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[edit] Where is the bulb currently located?
Is the bulb located in Livermore or Pleasanton? They are two separate cities, so the bulb can only be located in one of them. - Walkiped (T | C) 20:58, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- According to this source, the bulb is located in Livermore. Any objection to me editing the article accordingly? - Walkiped (T | C) 22:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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Livermore, California is noted for one amazing record: a 105+ year old 4-watt lightbulb housed by the Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Department is still burning bright. In truth, its "brightness" may be a matter of debate. It glows dimly, but definitely still functions as a lightbulb. The Guinness Book of World Records, Ripley's Believe It or Not, and General Electric have concluded that the bulb has been burning continuously since 1901 with the exception of power failures and three times for moving to another station. The lightbulb was manufactured by the Shelby Electric Company and was hand blown with a carbon filament.
According to Mrs. Zylpha Bernal Beck (born in 1884), the bulb was donated to the Fire Department by her father, Dennis Bernal in 1901. Mr. Bernal owned the Livermore Power and Water Company and donated the bulb when he sold the company. This story has been supported by several firefighter volunteers of that era.
It originally hung in a garage in downtown Livermore that was used by both the fire and police departments. It was later moved to a newly constructed City Hall that housed both departments. About twenty years later, it was moved to Fire Station #1. It has also been moved between fire stations in 1976 and 1996.
There is a widespread interest in the lightbulb, visitors have come to see it from every state in the Union, and from many foreign countries. The "centennial bulb" has its own webcam keeping a watchful eye on the everpresent dim glow: http://www.centennialbulb.org/cam.htm
Successive fire chiefs have regarded it as their talisman and a good luck charm. Rumour has it that previous chiefs had standing orders that if any firefighter even accidentally broke the light, that person would be fired.
[edit] Message from the Bulbs Site's Webmaster
I just received a message from the bulb's webmaster giving permission to use pictures on the site and a few corrections that need to be made to the article. --The_stuart 23:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Dear Stuart,
Great job on your bulb info! As for the pics feel free to use any on the site. We have never charged anyone for use of our shots. Most of them were taken by either Dick Jones, or myself, and other than giving us credit for the shots they are free to the public. If you need anything of a larger resolution just let me know. Most of the pics are at; http://www.centennialbulb.org/photo1.htm
Here's the only differences or additions I've found;
>There is only one other known bulb like it in existence.
Sorry to disappoint but it was just a common very good bulb that was made by Shelby. I bought one myself on ebay last year and have it turned on under the same conditions at my home. According to Sally Maier of the Shelby museum it is the same vintage. See the link below for pics; http://www.centennialbulb.org/shelby-steve.htm
Theres one for sale on ebay right now; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190063944200&rd=1&rd=1
The article you are refering to is the second bulb that had been given to the fire dept in 1901. I was the person who tested it for her, and it works as well.
>It originally hung in 1901 [5]in a garage in downtown Livermore that was used by both the fire and police departments. Later the fire department consolidated. It was moved to a newly constructed City Hall housed 2 departments.
It's hard to say with the murky past, but it looks as though it has probably been in 4 places. According to this news article in 1972;
"Bill Wilson, 85, came to Livermore in 1905. As a new arrival to the small farm community, he was quick to join the ranks of fire-fighting volunteers, battling blazes at Jensen's side.
But for Wilson, the memories are vague and few of the now famed light.
Wilson couldn't recall just when the old bulb was first put to use.
"I wouldn't know and wouldn't want to hazard a guess," said Wilson. "When the things was put up, nobody gave it a thought at all."
ALTHOUGH TEN years younger than his fellow retired volunteers, John Anderson, 75, recalls the old globe well:
"I passed it every day on my way to school."
"They moved that old bulb to three places," continued Anderson. "First it was in a hose cart house on L Street then in the Second Street fire house; and finally moved to where it's at now (First Street). It don't give much light, but it's a light."
Yet Anderson, like the two older firemen, doesn't recall when the bulb was first put in its socket. "I don't doubt it was put up in 1901," Anderson explained, "but I don't know exact dates." http://www.centennialbulb.org/newsppr3.htm
>In the early 1970s the bulb was noticed by Charles Kurault of the TV >program "On the Road with Charles Kurault". He researched the bulb and other hand blown bulbs and determined the bulbs age.
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- Before Charles Kurault a reporter named Mike Dunstan of the Tri-Valley
Herald did the digging in 1972. Then Charles heard about it became national news. http://www.centennialbulb.org/newsppr3.htm
Ripleys & Guinness Both of the 2007 editions acknowledge the bulb as holding the worlds record. Before that in the 1970's the livermore fire dept applied to Guinness and Ripleys for recognition. Guiness mentioned the bulb as "some evidence" but not conclussive until this year. Then in 1988 they stopped. http://www.centennialbulb.org/guiness.htm
According to Roger Jones of Kent, UK; "I have looked at this further and the first edition that mentions the Bulb at Livermore is the 1972 edition. It also appears to be in every edition up to and including 1988."
>In 1976, the fire department moved to Fire Station #1, and the bulb moved >too. The bulb was only turned off for ten minutes.
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- According to Ret Fire Chief Lynn Owens the original wire was cut, as they
were affraid to unscrew it, and was reconected at station 6 after a full Fire Truck escort across town.
[edit] Byron the Bulb
Shouldn't Thomas Pynchon's fictional immortal bulb "Byron", protagonist of "The Story of Byron the Bulb" in Gravity's Rainbow, be mentioned here? --ScottMainwaring 02:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wattage
Has the bulb's input power ever been measured? It is typically quoted to be 3 - 4 watts. But, based on old catalogs, the bulb appears to be Shelby's 30 watt model.
Some possibilities are:
1) They are cheating by dimming the bulb. 2) The bulb has reduced its power by itself over the years due to wear and tear. 3) It's current brightness equals that of a modern 4 watt night light, regardless of actual wattage.
66.114.93.6 06:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
