User talk:Celtmist

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Contents 1 Yugoslavs 2 Istria 3 Montenegrin 4 Edit summary

[edit] Yugoslavs

Hello Celt! You'd be hard pressed to find any information regarding the number of "Yugoslavs" in this day and age. After the break up all the republics except Serbia/Montenegro, then remaining "Yugoslavia", had supressed any Yugoslav identity that remained in order to further secure their sovereignty. Nowadays the only ones that can be considered Yugoslavs were either those born in the SFRY before '91 or those that had a positive opinion of the SFRY (which quite honestly is anyone who actually lived there between the 60s - 80s). In short, you won't find the data you're looking for, unfortunately -Hurricane Angel 23:46, 16 March 2006 (UTC). Ribarevina

Wrong. There is a category in the Croatian census from 2001 that allows that form. See the official page of Državni zavod za statistiku ("state institute of statistics"), here's the link [1]. Find the row "Jugoslaveni". Kubura 13:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Istria

Hi! Heh, I knew someone would object to my edit, but it's no problem, really. The only thing is that I have yet to come across any sources that state that Serbs historically lived in Istria. The map in that article is interesting, but mind you that data is from a 1981 census, which means those Serbs might as well be economic immigrants. Also, you probably are aware of the so-called Istrian exodus where thousands of Italians left Istria. Well, they did leave a lot of empty houses and many immigrants arrived in those areas, from other republics too, the exact same thing happened in Slovenia as well. A definite clue pointing to that is the fact that those light blue areas are mostly on the coast, which was mostly Italian-inhabited before the World Wars, while the interior was populated by Slavs (be it Slovenians or Croatians). And like I said I have yet to come across any sources saying that Serbs lived there before economic immigrations in the 20th century took place. That's why I deleted the Serbian entry and Cyrillic transcription. Regards, edolen1 19:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

However, I personally don't object to putting the Serbian entry back, however I would like to keep the transliteration separate for the sake of clarity (Croatian and Slovenian are in Latin only). However, if we go that far it would be lovely to get the Istro-Romanian name for Istria as well. edolen1 19:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Serbs came on Istria much later, after WWII, with Yugoslav policy of colonizing the Serbs on border areas (especially in western Croatia). Inheritage of the policy of Kingdom of Serbia. Kubura 13:35, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Montenegrin

What you're describing isn't Serbianisation. It's capital-city-isation. Rural Serb dialects in Bosnia, Herzegovina, Montenegro, Krajina etc became homogenised due to the media/cultural influence of Belgrade. Same with rural Croat dialects in Croat areas. I mean, I have grandparents from Dalmatia, Montenegro, Herzegovina, and sure I enjoy learning about their local dialects, but that's all they were/are. Macedonia is a different story. --estavisti 23:23, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Only just noticed your message, overlooked it somehow before. Macedonia is different because it isn't a Serbian region/country. Sure, it has considerable Serbian heritage, but it also has other, very major, influences. So, the stuff in Macedonia can reasonably be described as Serbianisation, as it resulted from the view that Macedonia is Southern Serbia, and that Macedonians are Serbs (with some basis in reality). Obviously, the process wasn't very effective: Macedonia was divided into three sections, and only the Serbian section (today's Republic of Macedonia (aka Vardar Macedonia)) retained a Macedonian identity, while the other two sections (Aegean Macedonia and Pirin Macedonia) are thoroughly Greek and Bulgarian respectively. Regards, estavisti 19:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary

That was a mistake which I tried to catch, but didn't hit the "Stop" button in time! I noted that the ga Wiki article is at Albain, not Alba, but you had already reverted it back to the correct one, which I spotted after I'd written the Edit summary. --Mais oui! 11:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Going to check with Slowking Man (the blocking admin). I'm tending to agree with you, in that your edits don't seem similar to the blocked user whose sock you are accused of being. Syrthiss 14:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Much appreciated Syrthiss. I was rather stunned to discover that I was blocked! Not been here since it more or less happened! I knew this was coming for a long time because we've got too many jokers here and a single IP address for exactly 234 computers used 24 hours a day. Celtmist 23:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Note to reviewing admin colleague: Celtmist has apparently been confirmed as a sockpuppet by Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Ragusan. Sandstein 06:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Meaning? I cannot be a confirmed sockpuppet because I am writing here in the flesh, if anyone is a puppetteer, I am! But I am not. Celtmist 10:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)