Talk:Cell (Dragon Ball)

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[edit] Nappa's DNA

Nappa's DNA was not used to create Cell in the manga, only in the anime.

I would beg to differ. My translation (volume 31, chapter 2) states that Nappa's was indeed used. Beowulph 16:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I think that King Cold's DNA was not used it was Freeza's Dragon Emperor 05:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Cell has the DNA both King Cold and Freeza. It even shows both of their pictures when Cell discusses his DNA heritage with Piccolo. Beowulph 13:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Why would he need it when he has freeza's Dragon Emperor 22:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
That's like asking why Cell was given Vegeta's DNA when he had Goku's. It's because the broader ranger of powerful beings Cell can be constructed from, the stronger he'll be, and the more abilities he'll have available to him. Remember: King Cold was stronger than Freeza was, according to Goku. Maybe Freeza was selected for his great range of techniques, and King Cold was selected to give a greater fighting potential.
Daishokaioshin 23:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone once claimed that Cell belongs on the list of Saiyans in Dragon Ball, since he has Saiyan Cells. Should he be? I think not, but I'd like your opinions. Jienum
He's not a Saiyan, so he doesn't belong there. People who claim he could go SSJ because of having Saiyan cells are similarly confused about this. Cell isn't a Saiyan in any way, shape, or form, thus he cannot go SSJ anymore than Krillin could. He is an Android that taps the powers inherent in certain individuals' cells. He doesn't belong to any of the races that those cells were gathered from.
Daishokaioshin 01:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Cell's race is the same as all the other creations of Dr. Gero, artificial human. At most, Cell merits a note on the page. Beowulph 01:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Err... No. Artificial human is what 17 and 18 were. Cell was something else, much like how 16 was not the same as 18. Since Cell bears no similarities to any humans except PERHAPS if there are human cells in his body, that would kind of disqualify him. Artificial lifeform, yes. Artificial human, no.
Daishokaioshin 01:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I should clarify, I meant his race should be "Jinzō'ningen", which, according to our article on it, is a pretty broad term meaning "man-made man" and encompasses androids, cyborgs, robots... etc. Beowulph 03:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] What about Tien, Krillin, Yamcha, and I think Gohan?

Although I haven't watched Dragonball Z in a long time. I remember him saying that he has the cells of Tien, Krillin, and Yamcha. How else can he do Solar Flair? I know Goku learned the attack but in the episode he made a reference to getting the attack from Tien. I think Gohan was apart of cell too. Shouldn't they be mentioned? Zachorious 07:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Check the footnote. In the manga (the highest level of cannon) the ones listed are the ones he got his DNA from. The others were added in the anime only. Beowulph 14:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

In Dragonballz when Cell unleashes the Kamehameha At Gohan when he is at ssj2 level Vegeta says that the Kamehameha that Gohan Fired back was a lot larger than Cells. I haven't seen this episode in a long time but what I can remember is that the Kamehameha is actually smaller. does this mean that Vegeta was talking about the energy used to fire the Kamehameha or does he literally mean the size of it? Daemonic Rite 08:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

The power of the Kamehameha that Gohan fired was higher then the one Cell fired, not the actual size of the blast. "Bigger" in the Dragonball Z lingo to my best knowlege means bigger in Power. A blast can be huge, but the more concentrated the blast is, the more power it has, Take for example the Kamehameha, and then take Freeza's beam. Freeza's beam outclasses the Kamehameha in almost all catagories, except for maybe explosive force when it reaches the target. Majinvegeta

[edit] Recent changes

DragonBall1986, I don't believe your recent changes improve this article. I believe the changes make it considerably more cumbersome and add statements which are not verifiable, such as his taking certain abilities from Tenshinhan.

I also don't believe we need an entire section dedicated to his special abilities in the anime, especially if you're going to mix-and-match in the manga section. Frankly, there were only two or three that were new to the anime and they're already listed at the bottom of the existing special abilities section.

Regarding the picture, I agree with the original removal. We don't need two seperate pictures of basically the exact same scene. Beowulph 21:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

His techniques are all out of order, again! Stop reverting the page if you won't fix the techniques to link correctly. Dragonball1986 22:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
You just completeley ignored what he said. Read his comment, and ask yourself, "Is what I'm doing right?" and then reply to him. You have to give some reason to support your changes or they will be reverted.--KojiDude (Contributions) 22:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meet Gooden

Hello there Ladies and Gentlemen! My name is Gooden (also called the Goo-Master). I don't talk very much here but i do contribute. I'm not much of a Dragon Ball fan but i absolutely love Cell. He is one of my favorite villains of all time. As a contributor, i'm going to add some additions to enhance the article. However, i fear that my changes will evoke disputes. Hopefully this will not be the case, and we can come to a mutual agreement. Thanks Gooden 02:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

So long as they aren't fan opinion or outright vandalism and spelt correctly. I understand you like Cell but don't go overboard okay? HEre, have a look at this article to get you started. Wikipedia:Vanalism MightyKombat 17:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that would be Wikipedia:Vandalism. 209.247.22.137 18:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Special abilities

  • Piccolo's conversation with Cell confirms that the Kamehameha came from Goku.
  • We don't need to list where the originator of an ability got it from (Kamehameha from Goku who got it from Roshi etc.)
  • When did Cell use the Zanzoken?
  • See the special abilities page for the discussion on Cell and the Genki Dama Beowulph 22:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Cell used Zanzoken repeatedly. Especially during his fight with Goku during the Cell Games. Remember how the two of them kept attacking only to have the other guy vanish and attack them, just as they were vanishing to attack the other guy, etc.? That was Zanzoken.
Daishokaioshin 23:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
No, it wasn't, Cell only uses the Zanzoken once in the Anime, and never in the Manga. He did it one time against SS2 Gohan, after Gohan had done it to him. The Zanzoken isn't simply dissappearing and then re-appearing, the Zanzoken is when a fighter travels at a specific speed and then dodges extremely fast, creating an after-image in order to trick the opponent. However, during his fight with Goku, he does "dissappear" because of his speed, but so doesn't Vegeta, Piccolo, and everyone else, and they never learned the Zanzoken.Majinvegeta
I really don't think your definition of Zanzoken is accurate. The example I gave had them using Zanzoken repeatedly. The definition of Zanzoken during Dragon Ball is significantly different from the definition during Dragon Ball Z, because the speeds they operated at increased as well. The fight between Goku and Cell, by your definition or the rest of the world's, had them using Zanzoken repeatedly.
Daishokaioshin 07:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
?--SUITWhat!? 42 02:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cell is not a machine

The article reffers to Cell as a machine when he's more of a biological creation. Also, I think it's only the English manga that reffers to him as an "it" so that should be noted as well.

[edit] King Cold?

Cell said that Dr. Gero already had Vegeta's DNA so he didn't use Trunks DNA. Freza has King Cold's DNA. So what stoped Gero from using Trunk's DNA?

Because he wasn't born yet.--SUIT 23:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
By the time Cell was complete, yeah he was born. It was because he had enough Saiyan cells that he didn't take Trunks. 172.148.30.53 22:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Well the Cell that this article is mainly about doesn't have Trunks' DNA because Trunks wasn't there. Goku killed Freeza and Cold. What the main timeline's Gero said about his Cell isn't very relevant, as that Cell was slain by Trunks and Kuririn during its incubation. The Cell we know came from a variant of Trunks' timeline, and that Dr. Gero never encountered an adult Trunks. Onikage725
Think, man. The bug. The bug that hovered in the air copying and gathering cells. That thing was more likely than not still going around doing its job by the time Trunks started constantly fighting the cyborg twins in both alternate timelines. Meaning it was somewhere in the middle of those fights, that (as Cell said himself) it was about to pick up cells of Trunks, then it stopped because it had enough Saiyan cells for him. Remember, in neither of those timelines is there a sign of them having found and destroyed that bug. And it wasn't until after Trunks left, returned, and destroyed 17 and 18 that Cell was finally out in the open. So it had plenty of time to look for Trunks' cells; more likely than not they were just unnecessary by the time they were found. 172.133.33.115 00:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture = wrong

That thing on the bottom of his face is yellow and not orange. FireBall00 21:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Which picture are you talking about?Onikage725 00:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
He was talking about the top picture they had on there before the current one. 209.247.22.137 18:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Voice actors

Some idiot keeps changing the voice actor for Cell from Dameon Clarke to Christopher Sabat. Not only does it say that Clarke voiced Cell in DBZ in the credits but my Budokai 3 booklet and game's credits say in clear white writing "Dameon Clarke". If Sabat HAD voice him, he'd have his proper name written there as he has with Vegeta, Yamcha andPiccolo. Hell, EVEN DAMEON'S OWN PAGE SAYS HE VOICED CELL! You can't get more proof than that! MightyKombat 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

You have got to be kidding me. The only other name other than Dameon Clarke to ever be credited anywhere for the voicing of Cell is "Dartanian Nickelback". Last I recall, that's Clarke's second alias. There is no plausible excuse that I can think of for Chris Sabat or anybody other than Clarke or his Nickelback alias being put in as the voice of Cell in a Wikipedia article when all other sources point to DC. 209.247.22.137 19:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. Every damn source under the sun says DC I checked Dameon's page myself and it says he voiced Cell in BT2! I advise any morons who plan on changing the voice actor to check Clarke's page and if you still change it after viewing the page then what are you doin here you fucktards? MightyKombat 22:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

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