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1 Did The Velvet Underground play at the CBGB ?
2 Is the club closing?
3 Famous Acts
4 Television vs. Wayne County
5 Table in "Famous Acts" section was messing up the External links section
6 Famous Acts as distinct article?
7 OMFUG
8 Gallery

[edit] Did The Velvet Underground play at the CBGB ?

According to the page, the CBGB was founded in 1973, but Lou Reed left The Velvet Underground in 1970, and that is usually considered the real end of band. Did The Velvets without Reed play at the CBGB? Doug Yule officially disbanded The Velvets shortly after Squeeze was released, and that is 1972/1973. I think that the "band" (or what remained of it) was not playing live anymore by that time. --SugarKane 11:06, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

i didn't do any direct research on this, but maybe by "the Velvet Underground", the author of that section meant "The Velvet Underground and Nico."

[edit] Is the club closing?

For anyone who cares but hasnt heard: According to mickey leigh (Joey Ramone's brother, RIP Joey, Dee Dee, Johnny), there is a possibility that CB's could hav a 10 year contract, but that there are a few spanners in the works, let's keep our fingers crossed

so i've been hearing on the radio that even after the rally on August 31, 2005 in Washington Square Park, CB's is still closing. does anyone know when exactly it will be closing its doors for good? -- anonymous

According to this Pitchfork news clip, it will be closing October 31, 2006. 71.65.54.92 19:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Acts

I think there has been some subtle vandalism to the Famous Acts section. It includes, among others, bands such as "Pink Floyd", "Peter, Paul and Mary" and "The Yardbirds". I'm going to remove the bands I consider vandalism until someone can put forth some proof that they played there. Timothyreal 21:39, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

If the club is closing for sure, I believe they should have one last kick-ass rancid concert.

[edit] Television vs. Wayne County

The section about Wayne County is of substandard quality. It may be true that Wayne County played CBGB first, but the tone of the text is standoffish and in conflict with the rest of the article. Someone armed with facts and some writing style should edit this section.

[edit] Table in "Famous Acts" section was messing up the External links section

I was able to fix it by adding |} after the last entry. I first tried it without the newline and it didn't work. I figured I will leave this here as an aid and reminder for people like me who are not familiar with the pipe syntax for tables. Spalding 13:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Acts as distinct article?

It seems like most of the editing on this page is done on the "famous acts" portion of the article - which is getting unwieldy. I think it should be spun off into its own article, named something like "Acts that have played CBGBs", which would then be prominently linked to from CBGB page. A similar move was made on the Glam rock page, to create a new page for a list of acts. - AKeen 21:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea. The list is pure tedium anyway. IMHO. - Corporal Tunnel 22:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. See List of famous acts that have played CBGB - AKeen 05:13, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OMFUG

Today, the next-to-last day the CBGB is open, brings the following addition to the Founding section:

There is also a more dark humored and precise alternate meaning for OMFUG, according to the original Sound Engineers and Security Crew of the club; OMFUG meant for them: "Only Musicians F*** (as in have sex with) Ugly Girls". ^{[citation needed]}

I've removed this because it is a little too bizarre and silly to stay on the page without a cite. The reference to original staff and security is not verifiable, and even if they did claim that lo these 35 years ago, so what? IBM stands for International Business Machines; I'm sure employees over the years have come up with many alternate resolutions to the acronym, but they are not relevant and have no place in a reference work.

Even if true, this strikes me more as the sort of fond reminiscence that is better placed in a memoir or CBGB-as-we-knew it page, not the Wiki. Comments? Sources? - Corporal Tunnel 15:55, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it seems that sort of thing would be nearly unverifiable, and is not very encyclopedaic - AKeen 16:01, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The alternate meaning was told to me by Mr. Dennis Dunn, who worked security there, and also brother of the late Norman Dunn, original sound system designer and sound engineer. Both brothers are mentioned at CBGB's website. This is the first time I have added something to wikipedia, so I apologize for spewing this out without reading the guidelines. People have been trying to figure the meaning of OMFUG for years, but Hilly and his close friends know the meaning... leaving people to figure it out.