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[edit] Schedules

As the scheduling for Cbeebies changes monthly, is it better to not mention the times when it is on in the articles? Programmes often change times and days, and it leads to some inaccuracies --Lostintheplot 16:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Schedules should not be put into articles according to section 1.7.3 (at time of typing) of What Wikipedia is not. An encyclopedia would not be the place to detail times and dates of programmes, as it is unencyclopedic. I had a nightmare having to deal with a good number of articles with schedules in other articles. --tgheretford (talk) 17:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CBBC on Choice

On the CBBC Channel page, in the infobox, CBBC on Choice is a former name. However, CBeebies says that CBBC on Choice is a channel it replaced. I'd like to know the details: what exactly is it? --Thelb4 16:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I will link to here from the Talk:CBBC Channel page.

Technically 'replaced', though it wasn't a channel, just a programming strand on BBC Choice. By the way, you're forgetting to change 05 to 06 in the Audience share updates. BillyH 16:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star TV

Can someone explain the relevance of this "Star TV" list to CBeebies?

--JimmyTheWig 13:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please be careful what you add to the page!!!

Hi all. I just took 4 programes out of the list of programme examles of the CBeebies channel, since 3 of them they have never shown, and the 4th, I can find no existance of anywhere on the net! CBeebies have never shown, Peppa Pig, Thomas the Tank Engine, or Fifi and the Flowertots (all 3 on the ITV network) and can anyone tell who or what the hell Tommy Zoom is (or was) since CBeebies have no idea what the heck it is! And thats straight from BBC Network Centre, in London... Sorry to be picky, but thats life!!! Thor Malmjursson 01:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Network Centre should consult their web developers, then. http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/characterpages/tommyzoom/index.shtml Tonywalton  | Talk 16:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
With apologies to you Tonywalton, I can only assume they have't got any knowledge of it because it was listed as a programme shown on CBeebies, and that is how I enquired on it. As in "Have you ever heard of a programme on your channel called Tommy Zoom?" "No." - If it had been listed differently, as being on the web rather than a networked show, I would have probably got on a heck of a lot easier!!! Thor Malmjursson 16:35, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
No problem. I did find it on line one of the results of a google search for Tommy Zoom, mind. Perhaps Google searches differently depending on your browser (I'm serious there; the search string includes a "browser" string. Maybe the search is more efficient using Safari...). Whatever, regarding Tommy Zoom, he appears from the CBeebies page I supplied not to be a programme character as such; it seems more like a series of stories from Little Toe, so strictly they they were right to say that there's no programme by that name. so you too were right in removing TZ from the list; like Blue Cow, Sniff & Wag and so on it isn't a programme as such! Cheers Tonywalton  | Talk 17:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Presenters

Does anyone know what's going on with the presenters?

It looks like Sue has now gone and it's now just the four of them.

Any ideas on how best to change the article to reflect this? The bedtime songs have changed too. Have they scrapped the 6pm song in favour of a "bedtime montage" of clips from programs about bedtime?

--JimmyTheWig 09:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

According to the CBeebies message board Sue left in March. They've re-recorded the goodnight song with only the four current presenters (to general opprobrium so the version with Nicole in is no longer broadcast. I've edited the article to reflect this; feel free to improve it! Tonywalton  | Talk 18:12, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Have added my two pennyworth to the article. Dunno if it improves it, though! --JimmyTheWig 14:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Returned Sue to her place of honour, eh?  :-) Looks fine. Tonywalton  | Talk 14:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnaby Bear

I seem to remember that though there's no "Becky and" in the title the continuity announcer and the on-screen "coming up" bumper do usually refer to "Becky and Barnaby Bear" (which implies she's called Becky Bear, I suppose). Tonywalton  | Talk 14:19, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, a difficult one. It's sort of called both, I guess. I can't find any reference to "Becky and Barnaby Bear" on the Cbeebies website, but on [1] there is a link to Barnaby Bear. Will have to wait until it's next on and check the listings. (And if Becky's surname is Bear it's a coincidence as they're not related!) --JimmyTheWig 11:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Try [2] -- User:81.79.1.0
To clarify this one for you all, the series is simply called Barnaby Bear. It was taken as a segment froma series of BBC Education programmes entitled "Watch", which used to feature Becky (his human friend) and Barnaby Bear travelling all over the place. It was orginially used as part of the curriculum for Nature studies and Geography. The series uses the names "Becky & Barnaby Bear" in the intro, but the series title does not feature Becky in its name. Thor Malmjursson 13:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
This is irrelevant with respect to CBeebies. The "Watch" programs are called (for example) "Watch: Barnaby Bear to the Rescue" (e.g. [3], [4]) rather than "Barnaby Bear". The on screen title of the show in CBeebies is "Becky and Barnaby Bear". Further evidence is that [5] is a scriptwriter for the show and refers to it as "Becky and Barnaby Bear".
Hows this for relevance. The Cbeebies website refers to the show as Barnaby Bear 1. It is sold in VHS and DVD form by BBC Education as simply Barnaby Bear. If it was called Becky and Barnaby Bear, it would be sold, and named as such by those who commissioned it, surely? Thor Malmjursson 12:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CBeebies Programming Dispute

Rather than start a edit war, I have added a tag to the section because I believe false information is being placed there. Particular concern goes onto Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends which has never aired on the channel, been removed before for the same reason (see one of the discussions above) and does not appear on the list of programmes being broadcast on CBeebies. [6] I think the whole list needs going through and checking with a fine tooth comb. --tgheretford (talk) 15:00, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know why this tag was removed as I found three programs not on the channel that were on the list. I've removed the programs in question. --JimmyTheWig 10:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. --tgheretford (talk) 11:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I think this is the third time I have seen programmes that I don't recongise as ever being on CBeebies being added to the list. Is there any way we can get people to verify each programme has been/is on CBeebies (ie with a verifiable external link) to avoid anyone just adding any programme in the future? --tgheretford (talk) 08:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

hi all, ive just edited out 'alvin and the chipmunks as im reliably informed this was never featured on cbeebies! 84.92.180.137 14:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Finn'sMum84.92.180.137 14:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Just asking - was Spider ever on CBeebies? I remember the program, but I thought it was on ITV --Lostintheplot 10:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

The only thing I could find on Spider and CBeebies on Google was a link to what the animal looks like, nothing about any programme called spider ever being on CBeebies. I have removed it. --tgheretford (talk) 10:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
The reference is to Spider (TV series). Per this it was a BBC programme, made in 1991, however there seems to be no evidence that it was ever on CBeebies. The link also mentions that it was on CBBC (presumably CBBC on Choice, way back then). Tonywalton  | Talk 11:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Programme List - Verification of every programme or deletion of the list?

And yet again, Thomas and Friends has been put into the list for the umpteenth time, surely it is time for verification of every programme on the list (as per WP:VERIFY)? Or I would go as far as deletion of the list... --tgheretford (talk) 09:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I quite like the list. I don't suppose there's any way for changes to have to be verified before being published? --Lostintheplot 09:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I support the presence of the list and I am happy to go through the list, since the whole page is on my watch list, and I will keep an eye on programmes going in. I will be happy to verify programmes being added so that the list can remain intact and present. Thor Malmjursson 14:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I've cited all the programmes that are on this coming week.... ChrisTheDude 15:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Presenters

Sarah-Jane seems to be doing links pretty much every day now - does this make her a "core" presenter....? ChrisTheDude 08:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

As far as I am aware, she was only doing weekends. But it seems that the presenters are all doing bits here and there. Maybe there is no longer a 'core' section and those who present sometimes?

--Lostintheplot 09:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

She was being used to help get dads up on Saturday mornings, but is now a regular presenter throughout the whole week. However, she doesn't appear in any of the pre-recorded songs, and so, much as I'm keen to expose her, I think the split into core and other presenters is fine. -- 80.195.219.19 17:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CBeebies themed segments

I remember a long while ago the broadcast during weekdays was "themed"; each of the then "core presenters" had a segment (?presumably 2 hours, or 2 x 1 hour, from 8AM to 6PM, with the 6-8AM and 6-7PM slots being outside the theming). Each presenter had a "room" and was associated with a colour and a style of programming, viz:

  • Sid: Green: "Making and doing", for instance "Bob the Builder"
  • Pui: Red: (?)
  • Nicole: Orange: Animals, for instance Tots' TV (because of the donkey)
  • Sue: Pink: (?)
  • Chris: Blue: Music, for instance Zingalong

with programmes of the relevant style being shown in the relevant section.

Does anyone else remember this, and can anyone remember Pui's and Sue's "themes"? Tonywalton  | Talk 14:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are references required

Are referecnes actually required for links? ••Briantist•• talk 10:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Do you mean the references I added against the programme titles? I put those in because that section was becoming increasingly unreliable due to people adding in any old children's programme they could think of, most of which had no connection with CBeebies whatsoever. Thomas and Friends, for example, has to date been added to the list (and removed) about twenty times despite never having been shown on any BBC-owned channel. By adding the references I thought it might make people think before adding some random programme and maybe check if it had actually ever been shown on CBeebies before they added it to the list..... ChrisTheDude 21:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree that the references against the programme titles are needed, as per ChrisTheDude above. But I think the article is now littered with "Citation Needed" superscripts. I think this is over-doing it. I'd say on an article such as this a citation is only really needed where there is disagreement.
Most of the things that currently require a citation could be confirmed by watching the channel. --JimmyTheWig 13:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
    • All those "Citation Needed" tags were added this morning by an editor who seems to have taken issue with me removing a general "Unreferenced article" tag, and who basically went through an whacked a tag against every sentence...... ChrisTheDude 13:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Ok, i've managed to get it down from 25 "Citatin Needed" tags to just 7..... ChrisTheDude 09:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Nice work, ChrisTheDude. It makes it much easier for other people to add and edit the page. ••Briantist•• talk 09:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Nice one, Dude. --JimmyTheWig 14:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No bedtime song - so what?

This has been added twice now: On Friday 26th January 2007 the bedtime lullaby was not played. No reason was given for its absence. Well, the other day I saw the exact same presenter link used before two consecutive programmes, but both instances were clearly a case of some techie hitting the wrong button, and really not significant enough to bother mentioning in the article......ChrisTheDude 21:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Fair enough I suppose, although all the parents I know were talking about it and wondering why. I came to Wikipedia to see if there was any information here, which is why I left the information that I had. I can see that it's more trivia than encyclopædic knowledge but I thought some people might be interested as it seems to be a unique event. Bat400 06:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Unique maybe, but not really significant in the grand scheme of things. I'd doubt that by the following week anybody even remembered that it had (or hadn't) happened..... ChrisTheDude 08:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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