Talk:Cato the Elder
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[edit] Several points of view
Cato the Elder was cool! -- 69.149.75.226 20:47, 29 October 2005
- Well, he did certainly give us a great quote to work off of for destroying enemies... Darkmusashi 00:20, 17 December 2005
he was dumb.... he stabbed himself! -- 24.16.152.47 00:59, 30 June 2006
- You must be thinking of Cato the Younger rather than Cato the Elder --Pichote 19:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Adding Headline Breaks
If anyone can think of better titles, feel free. -- Agne27 00:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cato's extended biography
The newly added material seems to come out of some mid-19th century source. It ought to be credited, I think. Andrew Dalby 19:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC) I see now. It's all out of Smith, so it is credited. Andrew Dalby 19:13, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it is. -- Pichote 19:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hello, Andrew! With respect to the 19th century material included in Cato the Elder, feel free to update any outdated language you could find (or directly, revert my edits). It would be superb to adapt the content of Smith's book into the article, but 1) Cato Major is a renowned celebrity, so he deserves a good article; 2) I lack the time for adding content to the article at a very fast rate. Again, whenever you feel the article a little (or clearly) imbalanced, revert my edits. It is always great to meet somebody interested in Cato. --Pichote 19:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message, Pichote. No, I don't want to revert it. It's good material, though the 19th century English took me aback at first! I'm sure Cato would have approved of some good old-fashioned language, especially in his praise. Getting it all in there, with the references too, was an excellent step. Andrew Dalby 19:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 19th century material included in Cato the Elder
I plan to add content based on (William Smith's Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, 1870) the text of which is in the public domain. This will be a slow process because I will try to adapt the 19th century vocabulary and grammar to 21st century language and purge some point of view issues... to the best of my knowledge. As said above: whenever you feel the article a little (or clearly) imbalanced, make your corrections, o directly: revert my edits. -- Pichote 23:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- As far as I'm concerned, go right ahead! With Smith's help and yours, Pichote, the Cato article is launched towards star quality. Andrew Dalby 08:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Star quality? Well... I would like to somewhat improve the quality of the article, but let matters take their course, ha ha. -- Pichote 12:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I completed the Youth section and its subsections. Next target: expand the Early Career section. Again, any comment will be kindly welcomed! -- Pichote 20:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I forgot to say: "Feel free to correct/add/clarify my edits." --Pichote 20:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I added content covering the whole military career of Cato the Elder (early career, consulship, and late career). I have tried to adapt the 19th century expresiveness of Smith1870's authors to the more balanced and neutral tone of our 21st century Wikipedia. Note: perhaps you will find a lack of wikilinks, feel free to add them. Next target: further expand the Section Influence in Rome (or as I say: Cato the citizen). Happy editing! -- Pichote 18:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Portrait
As far as I know, the portrait included on the page has in no way been identified as Cato the Elder. Every book that I have seen it in just identifies it as an old man of Patrician status. There fore, I think it should be removed. -- carriensol
- If you follow the interwiki links you find that it has been copied to the Cato page almost worldwide. But I think you're right. It ought to go. Andrew Dalby 16:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it's been long enough and so I'm going to remove it. Hopefully someone will check here before they decide to add it back in. -- carriensol
- "Every book that I have seen it in just identifies it as an old man of Patrician status" I agree: we have enough evidence to remove the image. -- Pichote 15:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
