Talk:Catholic Church and ecumenism
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This section, moved from the Roman Catholic Church article, really needs room to breathe. Sections to be added:
- Ut Unim Sint material
- Unitatis Redintegratio material
- Interfaith material inclucing relations with the Jewish people
- World Day of Prayer events at Assisi, Italy
[edit] Picture
I have replaced the picture of the Pope and Patriarch with the most recent one from the papal visit to the Ecumenical Patriarchate. In the previous picture, it was not Bertholomew, as far as i can see. Hectorian 20:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Catholic
The Catholic Church does not use the term Catholic to describe other churches. It recognizes apostolic succession or doesnt. Whether a church is 'catholic' or not is an Anglican preoccupation based on the Anglo-Catholic/evangelical controversies. As the sentence describes a judgment of the Catholic Church, it is inaccurate and needs to be removed.129.74.228.121 16:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans
Chapter IV.-Beware of These Heretics.
I give you these instructions, beloved, assured that ye also hold the same opinions [as I do]. But I guard you beforehand from those beasts in the shape of men, whom you must not only not receive, but, if it be possible, not even meet with; only you must pray to God for them, if by any means they may be brought to repentance, which, however, will be very difficult. Yet Jesus Christ, who is our true life, has the power of [effecting] this. But if these things were done by our Lord only in appearance, then am I also only in appearance bound. And why have I also surrendered myself to death, to fire, to the sword, to the wild beasts? But, [in fact, ] he who is near to the sword is near to God; he that is among the wild beasts is in company with God; provided only he be so m the name of Jesus Christ. I undergo all these things that I may suffer together with Him,29 He who became a perfect man inwardly strengthening me.
I've just read this text of Inatious, and could not conciliate it with the catholic ecumenism. Could any catholic friend give some insight? Thanks. []'s —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mauro do Carmo (talk • contribs) 02:12, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
- HHMMM It seems to me that there is only one reason to mentions this. Now we all know what that is. In case you don't then I will explain. Only an enemy of Christ and his Church would mention this because he thinks that it will hurt the Chruch's image and reputaion with others not in the Church and cause some who are in the Church to leave and thus suffer consequenses that those of us in the Church believe that they will suffer. Therefore it is clear that by mention of the quote above, the person quoting would not in any context truely want an explanation or any dialog but would instead enter into any such discussion with ill will and mal intent. Thus I for one find myself feeling that taking the advice of the quote may actually be the simplist course of action so that I am not needlessly bothered by such a person and instead leave then to the help of Christ.--Billiot 17:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
