Talk:Catch wrestling
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I think a lilttle should be added aboot the diferences between a 'shooter' and a 'hooker'. Plus also, something aboot Cornish wrestling. Lancashire wrestling was 'collar and elbow' wrestling with submission holds, Cornish wresltling had kicks.(Halbared 09:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC))
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[edit] History of Catch with Pro Wrestling
Article currently does not include enough about the relationship between catch wrestling, american folkstyle wrestling, and american professional wrestling. PLEASE CONTRIBUTE. -- Jimmy C. 23:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Roosevelt
Lovely letter from Roosevelt re Jiujitsu at http://www.bartleby.com/53/59.html. Rorybowman 00:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
'The wrestlers would stretch and crank their opponets, making them shout a loud concession of "uncle" '. (Last sentence, para 2).
Possible copyright vio ? It sounds more like a line from a "Monty Python" sketch !
[edit] This Entire Article Needs to be Re-Worked.
After reading this article five times, I still don't know what "catch wrestling" or for that matter "hook wrestling" is. This article gives a history of catch wrestling without any sort of explanation of what it is, and how it compares to other forms of wrestling.Ramsquire 21:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- I completely agree. The image is more informative than the text. -- James26 07:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Why is it called "Catch" wrestling?
Where does the "Catch" part of the name come from?
The name catch wrestling originated in Lancashire,england where they used the method to describe an art where catching an opponent in any manner without restraints practiced in mainstream contests.the original name was catch-as-catch-can which basically means a style using freeform grappling.
- Can the above user please place the above in the article and expound on it. There is no description of catch wrestling in the article, also can someone who knows explain what "collar and elbow" is and give examples. To the non-wrestling enthusiasts, the artice is hard to follow as is. For example the article says catch wrestling is the ancestor of modern professional wrestling. However modern professional wrestling includes punching, kicking, mat work a la Greco Roman/Olympic wrestling, submission holds, throws, slams, and leaping and jumping. The article should state which of the techniques in the above list, traces its origin to catch wrestling. Ramsquire 23:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Am i understanding this correctly?
I was under the impression that catch wrestling is an abbreviation of catch-as-catch-can, and that they can be used synonymously. Is this the case? (i've redirected catch as catch can here) ---Marcus- 08:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Great job on the article Rorybowman! ---Marcus- 08:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. Technically I understand "catch-as-catch-can" to be the folk version with "catch" the professional version. I've seen the more informal "catch-as-catch-can" label applied mainly to folk wrestling of the mid-1800's in the United States, Ireland and Scotland, but I would need to check on this. I'll try to find some more authoritative printed references on a library trip someday, but it may be that the famously vague and imprecise history of wrestling terminology makes this something for a more serious academic to determine. Rorybowman 14:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
