Talk:Casuals

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Fans began arriving in England wearing expensive Italian and French designer clothes, sometimes looted from stores during outbreaks of violence that were commonplace when English fans travelled abroad. - I'd very much like to see more citations to back up this assertion than a single claim in some Swedish magazine. While certainly there were substantial cases of fan violence in the 70s and 80s, I don't recall any reports of large-scale looting going on, and I'm sure that the Daily Mail would have fully informed everyone if there was even the slightest suggestion it was happening. -- Arwel 19:43, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I didn't add the sentence in the first place, so I guess I'm not the only one to have heard about it. Well, for more sources, see for example [1], [2] and [3] (Swedish). Hope that helps a bit. -- Elisson Talk 00:24, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I recall a BBC tv documentary on 80's hooliganism that made the same claim with interviews from a couple of scallies to back it up. According to the same programme Armani jeans were also a popular item

I'd like this page to clarify that Casuals are not a part of Skinhead, i.e., not an offshoot or variant like Suedehead, Smoothie, Sharpie or Psychobilly. Whereas the hooligan Bootboys clearly grew out of Skinhead, and relate directly or indirectly to Casuals by the obvious link of football-related violence, Casuals are only an illustrative example of the same principle of hard-edged smartness in dress also found in Skinhead.
Nuttyskin 01:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)