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[edit] conan?

will he be in his normal size again??????????????????



[edit] Naming?

Sry about awaking an old topic, but why were the american names used? i mean isnt that a sabotage on the original product? if dub names were to be used, why werent all anime/manga entries on wikipedia written with dub names? (thankfully no dub names are used in all the others) should we revert Kuririn of Dragon Ball to "Krillin"(American dub) or "Crilli"(Italian dub) then? no ay? why should this be the odd one out? i'm maltese and i watch DC on an italian channel and the original names are used, so i dont care about "Jimmy" but i'd identify "Shinichi" immediately. so do millions around the world. Furthermore, sometimes there's no consistency. sometimes you see "Kaminski" and sometimes you see "Kojima". can anything be done to ensure consistency and loyalty to what is original?

Because there is no consensus on names, and it was using dub names when it was created. See Talk:Case Closed/Name dispute discussions. BTW, if the dub names would be used in the most of the English world (US, Canada, UK), it has a bigger case than it's usually be...--Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 01:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mori or Mouri

What´s the right spelling? I see that both spelling is used for the last name of Ran and Kogoro. --ckorff 12:35, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Both of them are "accepted" ways to spell the name, but VIZ, LLC romanizes it as "Mori". WhisperToMe 22:25, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mori has another meaning in Japanese, which is forest and also regarded as name. So this one should be Mouri, the same as the name of one of the most important figures in Japanese history. --Heinlich 06:36, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Heinlich... Mouri can also be written as Mori. WhisperToMe 06:53, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Mouri is the correct spelling. I'm perfectly sure about this. -- 24.59.122.206 07:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

No you aren't. That's not even the Hepburn form. WhisperToMe 22:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

It's used both ways. --68.95.153.245 12:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

By WP:MOS-JP, both forms are incorrect; it should be Mōri. Samuel Curtis 07:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Not true. According to MOS JA, people naming works differently. VIZ romanizes as "Mori", so... WhisperToMe 18:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

While its true that "Mori" is a common way to romanize 毛利(もうり), it it doesn't allow for bidirectional kana-romaji use. Moreover, another (much more common) family name 森(もり) can be romanized the same way. (in bidirectional romaji "Mori"). BTW "Mōri" is 50% incorrect. Since おう (ou) and おお (oo) can BOTH be romanized "ō". (And that system's annoying to read.)

Except the rules of Hepburn explicitly state that "ou" becomes "ō" if the sound is "ō". WhisperToMe 02:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Important Characters?

Are all of the characters listed in the article that important that they need their own wikis (which someone seemed to imply by giving them all internal links)? Currently, there is plenty of room here to give a sufficient description and picture for each one and if that becomes untrue one day then someone can separate them into a different article likely named "Characters of Detective Conan" or "Detective Conan characters", which seems to be the trend with other very popular animes.--Kamasutra 22:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Characters of Case Closed", reflecting the English versions. Multiple articles can appear once the portal articles fill. WhisperToMe 08:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Names of "Minor" characters on CC TCG Site

Names of several "Minor" characters in the CC version has been revealed in the CC TCG site; excluding what it's on, we also have George Kaminski for Genta and Mitch Tennison for Mitsuhiko. However, these were given in CC anime up to now. Should they be used?

Also, the CC TCG page also had a few spelling errors; Agasa's name is Hershel in the anime subtitles but Herschel in that site; Amy's surname is Yeager in the anime sub but Yaeger on the site. Should we really believe what that site says? Inseckter Magieer is exserly inportnta character.

[edit] Conan and Arthur Conan Doyle?

I do not watch the show, but it seems to me that the main character may be named for Arthur Conan Doyle, the famed author of Sherlock Holmes. This would correspond to the detective theme of the show, but I am quite possibly incorrect about the reference. Can someone confirm this and possibly add it?

Er...to quote the article:
Following the advice of Dr. Hiroshi Agasa (Dr. Hershel Agasa in the English anime), Jimmy hides who he really is, lest the men in black find out that he is alive. When Rachel asks for his name, Jimmy spots books by Arthur Conan Doyle and Edogawa Rampo and comes up with the name "Conan Edogawa." Agasa then suggests that "Conan" go live with Rachel, and both Kudo and Ran accept the change.
So, uh...yeah. :) RADICALBENDER★ 01:38, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

Heh. Sorry about that. Thanks anyway.

[edit] Episode guide

Since someone added a list of episodes, I think it's best to make a page for those episodes. --Snkcube 06:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Been there, done that -- Genesis 15:59, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poor ratings on Adult Swim?

When I caught it on Cartoon Network, it was on too early in the morning after watching Adult Swim late into the night, and then going to bed. Detective Conan was shown after the repeat run. Also it didn't have the "Truth" song by Two-Mix, which I came across before hearing about Detective Conan, which I found out about from its relationship to the song.

The reason why AS did not intent to continue was not because it has poor ratings on AS overall, but because the ratings fell on the wrong demographics-- 14-18 years.Samuel Curtis 15:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Order of names

Okay, before I start an edit war myself, lets discuss this: Should the characters names be listed with the Japanese original version at the beginning and the english translation thereafter or the other way round? While I prefer the japanese ones (I'm from Germany, so I only knew those before I read the article) I'd still say that this is an article about the English release of the anime/manga, so it should be those names that are mentioned first. -- Genesis 16:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

As long as they are both there i dont think it matters too much. IanC 19:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
No matter which is which, the order should be the same so all articles are consistent with one another. WhisperToMe 23:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I'd suggest both original japanese version (for international people) and english version, if you feel up to the task. :) More complete that way. Raystorm 15:31, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move APTX 4869 here?

It is proposed that that article to be merged to here. However, I personally think the content is non sequitur to the type of content here. I propose that it to be merged to Haibara Ai.

Needed comment from Conanian Wikiers.Samuel Curtis 15:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that Haibabra Ai/Shiho Miyano should be seperate from APTX 4869. Just because she created the poison doesn't mean that's all that's there to her. This should only be done only if condensation of the number of articles created is the focus. --Magicbulletgirl 20:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)- Magicbulletgirl

[edit] Putting the shows logo(s) in the info box

While its worthwhile having a picture of one of the volumes of the manga in the entry, how about putting a screengrab of the logos for Case Closed and Detective Conan in the info box instead?

Ive already got a screen grab of each, but i (a) dont know what options to choose in the upload file section and (b) thought it would be best to talk about it first.

IanC 18:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok i belive ive done it right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Caseclosedandconanlogo.jpg

It would probably need resizing if it was used, what does everyone think? (and is that the right Licensing tag?)

IanC 19:25, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I think the Japanese logo should be used for DC. Samuel Curtis 07:24, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Manga Volumes

How many volumes does the manga have? I've got 49, but I'm sure there are more (I get them from France when I go there, hehe). The series is still going on in Japan, right? And there must be special volumes too, I guess. Should we make a mention of it in the article? Raystorm 15:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Volume 53 has just published this month in Japan. Samuel Curtis 14:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move of the Talk Page

Appreantly this talk page was not moved when WhisperToMe moved the main page to Case Closed (This is now Talk:Detective Conan (Case Closed)), and we need admin approval to move back. Give your opinions on whether it should be moved. Personally I am for this move to bring conformity. SupportSamuel Curtis 14:12, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Support Of course this has to be moved. This title is totally redundant. The pages name either has to be Detective Conan or Case Closed and as no consensus was reached on that matter, it should be Case Closed for now -- Genesis 09:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
It must be moved back. The guy who moved it didn't ask us if he could move it. WhisperToMe 21:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Support --日本穣 Nihonjoe 17:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Done Ashibaka tock 00:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revert War over Finland?

As I can see, there are several people arguing on whether Conan has been aired in Finland. See the following edits:

04:06, 30 April 2006 24.81.113.191 (Finland was first added)

19:41, 1 May 2006 81.17.194.29 (Finland removed)

23:17, 2 May 2006 64.12.117.11 (Finland added)

23:18, 2 May 2006 64.12.117.11 (Finland removed again)

I feel like a revert war in horizon...Samuel Curtis 15:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism?

Samuel Curtis deleted this sentence as "rv vandalism."; "Case Closed has strong similarities to Detective Picasso (1983) by Yoshihiko Funazaki, so some people are suspicious of plagiarism." But I do not think it is vandalism, because it is a fact, strongly relevant fact to Case Closed. I understand how fans want to protect the reputation of their idols, but wikipedia is not a place for advertisements but an encyclopaedia, so we should treat facts as facts here. I think his behaviour is reasonable as a fan, but unreasonable as a wikipedian. --1523 08:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

  • OK, even it isn't vandalism, that's original research since this is the first time I read that on anywhere-- and such things should not be on Wikipedia. You can discuss it elsewhere, though. Samuel Curtis 08:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
    • After google searches on this subject, it seemed that the Japanese Wikipedia has a brief line on this subject (w:ja:舟崎克彦). But I wouldn't put this on the main article if I were you, still.Samuel Curtis 09:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

No, this is not an original research, because this is sourced from a published book. I don't know if you know Japanese, but you'll find this information on ja:名探偵コナン#.E6.BC.AB.E7.94.BB ("漫画がアニメ化されて知名度が上がると、1983年に福音館書店から刊行された児童文学ピカソ君の探偵帳に設定が酷似している事が発覚した。") and on ja:青山剛昌#.E5.82.99.E8.80.83 ("青山の代表作である『名探偵コナン』について、内容が舟崎克彦作の児童文学『ピカソ君の探偵帳』（1983年- 福音館書店）に酷似していることが現在ネットなどで指摘されている（具体的内容については『ピカソ君の探偵帳』の記事を参照のこと）。 これについては青山が剽窃したのだとする説と、どちらの作品も「探偵」の一般的なイメージを使用したため、単に「被った」に過ぎないとする説が提示されている。この件について舟崎氏は小学館に問い合わせてはいるものの、訴訟などを起こすには至っていない。"). It is an obvious fact that there is a plagiarism claim, anyway. This claim is well known in Japan, if you search in Japanese, you'll get about 600 ghits. So this shouldn't be deleted as "vandalism." I understand you love Case Closed, but please don't twist Wikipedia rules for your own interest. --1523 10:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Extraordinary claim need extraordinary proof. I know no Japanese, and no English (and even Chinese, my mother language) material pertaining to this incident has been on the Internet that I cannot prove this as right or wrong, except that Furuzaki made that claim-- but that is of course not enough to put this on Wikipedia. I would ask others to help in this issue-- but, at least in English language unverifiable up to this point. I would ask for neutral help on this issue. In the meantime, can I add a dispute template? --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 15:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Even obvious facts need to be verifiable, especially when the fact isn't as obvious in another language. Also, Wikipedia's own policy from WP:V is verifiability, not truth and that the burden of evidence is on the editor adding the information. It may be true that the allegations were made, but if it can't be verified through a reliable source, then it has little place on Wikipedia. --Farix (Talk) 18:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Sorry, but I guess your argument is off the point. I am not insisting that Case Closed plagiarized Picasso, but I am insisting that there is a plagiarism claim. It is off the point if Case Closed really plagiarized Picasso. And I gave the published book and the results of ghits as the sources. Thus I already met my responsibilities to back my claim. Even if you can't read Japanese, that's not my fault. If there's a rule that only English sources can be taken as reliable, please tell me. --1523 19:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I collected about this issue.Please read"About Detective Picasso(correct title:Picasso-kun no tantei cho) and Detective Conan".If you can't read Japanese,Please use it.
    1523,you said "This claim is well known in Japan, if you search in Japanese, you'll get about 600 ghits". But this ghits include many waste.Because,"コナン"(conan) "ピカソ"(picasso) "パクリ"(plagiarism) these keywords are very unclear.So this ghit include "Futureboy conan" "Pablo Picasso" "Takeshi Kitano's anyone Picasso(Japanese TV show)" and others.These were 600(392) ghit,but "about Piccaso/Conan incident" is only 22 ghit.
    Sorry my poor English. --08albatross 09:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Please read this articleOriginal article in Funazaki Yosihiko"Korede iinoka kodomo no hon!!"--Funazaki's Essay"osahou no jikan dosu".
    This Essay is only article about Funazaki mentioned "Case Closed" in "Korede iinoka kodomono hon!!".
    Funazaki said in this article "早速、そのシリーズの一冊目を買って拝読させて戴いたが、主人公の年齢こそ違え、状況設定は極めて似ている。しかしそれが偶然の一致なのかどうかは、十数冊全部を通読チェックしなくてはならない。　私は面倒臭がりの上、全部買って印税をプレゼントするのも業腹なので、とり敢えず知人を介して版元に事情を聞いてもらった。".
    Certain Funazaki made inquired Shogakukan about this issue,but it is not a "plagiarism claim（盗作の訴え）",but an "inquiry circumstance（事情確認）".Funazaki considered "these resemble points has possibility of coincidence".But Funazaki didn't read other "Case closed" series except volume1,Because he thought "it is ridiculous that he gave the royalties from Conan books to Gosho Aoyama". Thus, it is impossible that comprehend "plagiarism claim" of a Funazaki's Article.(I can't write English well.Sorry my poor English)
    【日本語訳】
    「これでいいのか、子どもの本！！」収録・舟崎克彦「お作法の時間どす」原文.
    このエッセイは「これでいいのか、子どもの本！！」内で舟崎が「名探偵コナン」に言及した唯一の記事です。
    舟崎はこの記事の中で"早速、そのシリーズの一冊目を買って拝読させて戴いたが、主人公の年齢こそ違え、状況設定は極めて似ている。しかしそれが偶然の一致なのかどうかは、十数冊全部を通読チェックしなくてはならない。　私は面倒臭がりの上、全部買って印税をプレゼントするのも業腹なので、とり敢えず知人を介して版元に事情を聞いてもらった。"と述べています。
    確かに舟崎は「名探偵コナン」の事について小学館に問い合わせています。 しかしそれはあくまで「盗作の訴え」ではなく「事情確認」です。舟崎は文中で、コナンとピカソ君の類似点が偶然の一致かもしれないことを考慮しています。しかし彼は「私は面倒臭がりの上、全部買って印税をプレゼントするのも業腹」として、「名探偵コナン」第一巻以降のストーリーを確認しようとすらしていません。
    舟崎の文章から判ることは、あくまで『舟崎が小学館に事情を問い合わせた』『小学館からあいまいな返事が返ってきた』『舟崎が小学館への苦言と取れるコメントを残した』という事実のみであり、「お作法の時間どす」の文中の記述から「舟崎による、名探偵コナンと青山剛昌・小学館への盗作の訴え」や「小学館が盗作について少なからず認める」といった事を読み取ることは不可能です。--08albatross 11:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
「チキチキバンバン」は、三十年前に大ヒットした飛行機映画の超大作の
タイトルそのまんまだ。恥を知れ。
皆さん、もっとキチンとしましょうよ。
出版界だけはそういったお作法が守られていると信じて疑わなかったが

http://book.geocities.jp/picasso_conan/paroru.html

「疑わなかった"が"」。これ逆接ですよね。つまり実際には出版界でそういったお作法（人のアイデアを勝手にパクらないというお作法）が守られていないということ、そのことに対する嘆きを綴った文章ですねえ。そもそもこの一文全体が業界で横行するパクリについて述べているのに、その中で「状況設定は極めて似ている」と言っているのを盗作と関係ないと言い張るのは無理がありますね。ところで「小学館が盗作について少なからず認める」というのはどこから出てきた文章ですか? --Kazamatsuri 09:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Speak in English when possible, please. This is, after all, English Wikipedia. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 10:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Funazaki wrote;

Chitty chitty bang bang is the same title as a great movie that was a big hit in thirteen years ago. For shame!
Everybody, do not do a shameful thing.
I did not doubt publishing companies kept the manners like that, but...

This "but" is an adversative conjunction. After that, he deplored that the plagiarism is rampant around publishing companies. This whole article is about plagiarism, and he stated that "The story resembles closely" in that paragraph, so it is clear that he is talking about plagiarism. Btw, whose claim is that「小学館が盗作について少なからず認める」("Shogakukan admitted plagiarism not a little")? --Kazamatsuri 11:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

うーん…、『「お作法の時間どす」の文中の記述から「舟崎による、名探偵コナンと青山剛昌・小学館への盗作の訴え」や「小学館が盗作について少なからず認める」といった事を読み取ることは不可能です。』、後者の「」内の内容は

私は面倒臭がりの上、全部買って印税をプレゼントするのも業腹なので、
とり敢えず知人を介して版元に事情を聞いてもらった。
　返事はすぐに来て、
「作者はは舟崎さんの作品を読んでいないかも知れません。
だが、スタッフが『ピカソ君』のシチュエーションを面白がって、
一アイデアとして提案した可能性がないとは云えない」という内容であった。
http://book.geocities.jp/picasso_conan/paroru.html

という記述について言及したものであり、『この記述からは「小学館が盗作について少なからず認め」たという内容ではなく、小学館は「アイデアを拝借した可能性はあるかもしれない」と事実関係をあいまいにぼかした、という事実しか読み取れない』、という事を述べたかっただけで、他に他意はありません。 また、日本版Wikipediaの青山剛昌のページの「ピカソ君」関連の記述をめぐり、ノート:青山剛昌で起きた議論（既に合意が成立）での、とある方の見解を引用します。

自作が盗作であるかどうかは作家の名誉に関わる重要な問題ですので、
ネット上での風評や読者の間での指摘に留まっているものであれば
（裁判沙汰になったりマスコミに大きく取り上げられたのでもない限り）記載するべきではないと思います。
同じ理由で、この場合「盗作」という表現を使うことも反対です。
もっとも、内容が酷似しているという点や、舟崎氏が小学館に問い合わせたということについては
記載すべきことだと思いますが（ソースの明記が必要だと思われますが）、
それもこの項目ではなく、『名探偵コナン』の項目での記載にとどめるべきではないでしょうか。

確かに舟崎氏は「青山剛昌による、自作品のアイデアの盗用」の主張をにおわせる意図で「お作法の時間どす」の文章を記述したと思います。しかしながら、この問題について百科事典に掲載する上で、作者の主張の本文から読み取れる事実関係、および客観的な事実以外を記載するべきでは無いと思います。

【English】
Hmm...「お作法の時間どす」の文中の記述から「舟崎による、名探偵コナンと青山剛昌・小学館への盗作の訴え」や「小学館が盗作について少なからず認める」といった事を読み取ることは不可能です。(It is impossible that comprehend "plagiarism claim against Shogakukan or Gosho Aoyama" or "Shogakukan admitted plagiarism not a little" from "Osahou no jikan dosu"), The latter sentence was reffered

(I am an idler,and further I cannot put up with gave the royalties from Conan books to Gosho Aoyama.
So I inquired Shogakukan about this issue.
The reply to my inquiry reached me at once.
"The creator (Gosho Aoyama) might not have read Picasso-kun no tantei cho
But I can't deny the possibility that one of his staff members
was amused at the situation of Detective Picasso and suggested as an idea." )
http://book.geocities.jp/picasso_conan/paroru.html

This sentences comprehend "Shogakukan give a vague answer.They didn't assert that Aoyama didn't cheat Piccaso-kun",and it is impossible that comprehend "Shogakukan admitted plagiarism not a little" in it--I didn't mean anything by it.

I cite a passage in Japanese Wikipedia.It is an opinion atノート:青山剛昌(Talk:Gosho Aoyama) about "Piccaso-kun" issue.

(It is an important matter about creator's honor that whether own work is plagiarism or innocence.
So I think that if this suspicion remain in a rumor on a net and indication among a reader 
(as far as it became a lawsuit or it was informed greatly by mass communication),
should not mention it in Wikipedia.
For the same reason, I oppose use expression such as "plagiarism" in this case. 
But, I think that these contents are closely resemble and Funasaki inquired to Shogakukan
are should mention in Wikipedia.(but it need specification of a source)

Certainly,Funazaki insinuated "plagiarism by Aoyama" in "osahou no jikan dosu".But,I oppose that mention except "fact(comprehend from their insistence and an objective description)" in Wikipedia.--08albatross 15:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broadcaster in the US

Yes. Samuel Curtis 01:43, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reorganization of the main article

Today I put the list of DC/CC music into a sub-article list since it is long and tedious-- and not very useful for the causal reader.

In addition to it, I would propose many other things in the main article to be put into sub-articles to shorten the length of the main article, including:

I am tempted to move Characters into a sub-article also, but I think it'd be a bit too controversial, so let us decide on the above two first.

The questions here are:

  1. Should the two sections mentioned above be moved into seperate sub-article (lists)?
  2. If the answer for (1) is Yes, how should we organise these sub-articles?

Samuel Curtis 07:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I ask for the second time: Any opinions? Samuel Curtis 06:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming Conventions for Movies

A few days I have just found there's already been an entry for DC/CC Movie 6 (The Phantom of Baker Street), and I am now on that particular article.

The problem is the name of the movie. The exact name of the movie in Japan is of course Meitantei Konan-- Beika Sutorīto no Borei, which would be translated into Detective Conan-- The Phantom of Baker Street, using official translations. However, since the main article is Case Closed, we may also also call it Case Closed-- The Phantom of Baker Street for conformity. So what is suitable for this-- without the series name, use DC as the series name, or use CC as the series name? Samuel Curtis 07:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Deletion of the Cast Section Plus Character Section Reform

Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and Manga#Sections, voice actors are listed with characters and should not be listed seperately.

On the other hand, the character section is also long and unyieldy. According to what I read in different articles in FA-, A- and GA-class, they have different presentations ( Excel Saga completely deleted the character list; Believers and Planetes#Characters list 3-4 of them.

I propose, for the time being:

  1. Merging the Cast section into the Characters section by the use of {{anime voices}} template.
  2. Creation of a List of Case Closed characters which is currently a duplicate of the merged Case Closed#Characters.

Discuss your opinion on this here. If, after a week of this posting, there is no opinion posted, I would implement the said changes.Samuel Curtis 12:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I'm new to editting stuff on wikipedia. Was reading through the stuff on the main page, and I agree with the creation of a list. Will probably make the main page look neater.

At the same time, I will like to suggest that some information be included inside. This includes information on Kuroba Toichi and the Hattori family. I also noticed that character pages are not very updated, and will like to volunteer my services to update them. At the same time, I'll like to suggest that Jodie and Akai to be moved under the police section since they're under the FBI, while characters like Yuusaku and Yukiko be moved under a new "Family" section. I find "Other characters" too vague for these recurring characters. This is also in view of the fact that Yukiko has a friendship with Vermouth, and recent revelation that Yuusaku having a rival sort of relationship with the first Kaito Kid. Seeing how involved they are in the series, I don't think that they can be regarded as "other characters".Koura 16:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Changed accordingly 12 hours ago; Merely note here to notify editors. Samuel Curtis 05:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Question

In the article it is stated that the copyright issues related to the name have something to do with Conan the Barbarian. This is a widespread rumour, but also IMO misinformation: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=175 Based on this ANN article would it not be correct to presume that the name changes were made because Fox had copyrighted "Detective Conan" in USA? If there are more articles to back this up, or even better, someone could verify the claim by finding out who has the copyright to "Detective Conan" then I think we should change the reason. ~--80.62.165.54 13:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Since this is not a comment, I am open to sign this reply.
A quick search in the USPTO shown no past or present trademark DETECTIVE CONAN.
Of course this is never reliable information since it has never proved; but Fox's name for the series was rumoured as Conan's Capers.Samuel Curtis 14:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't you think there should be a trivia branch in this article. Bacause I've seen the Arabic dub of Detective Conan and I think they talked about some cartoon or anime. Shouldn't we write the name at least?

[edit] Question regarding DVD's

It was mentioned in the Article that the rights were given back due to low ratings but episodes were still being released on DVD. I am wondering are these episodes subbed only or are they still making dubs for thoese episodes. Its something I have thought about a few times but kept forgeting to ask. --My old username 20:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opinions Needed: Blanket Renaming of DC/CC Movies

In the exception of Movie 1 (The Time Bombed Skyscraper), which is going to be released by FUNimation soon, I think there is a necessity to add the Detective Conan prefix to all DC/CC movies; since this is the official name. [1] I need opinion to procees. --Samuel Curtis 06:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Technicly, those movies don't exist in english, so, if the title has the name "Detective Conan" in it, I agree, if the name is not in the title, it's not part of the title. My oppinion around in other sections is probably worth less then in the One Piece section, as I'm not a frequent editor anywere else. (Justyn 19:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Serialized In

I'm sorry for this newbie question, but: What does "serialized in" mean? thanks, (Me-pawel 03:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC))

It means circulated in a magazine. E.G. it is seen in Shonen Sunday. WhisperToMe 04:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where is Eisuke Hondou's page?

I keep on clicking on it and it continues to redirect me to the main article. Was it deleted or something? --Magicbulletgirl 23:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Someone redirected it; someone felt like the character is too minor for his or her own article. WhisperToMe 00:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Eisuke is about equivalent to Harley/Heiji or Serena/Sonoko as a recurring character in the recent manga. He appears frequently and is an active participant in the overarching storyline. So, if anyone besides Conan, Kogoro, or Ran warrants a page of their own, Eisuke does. 65.2.88.118 08:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
If you think it's necessary, you should write it. --Samuel Curtis-- TALK 08:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification of Naming Convention in DC/CC articles--discussion

As discussed in Talk:Case_Closed/Name_dispute_discussions for many, many years, I think the conclusion right now should be:

  • If that name has been Americanized, use the Americanized form.
  • If not, use the Japanese form. If the name of a character that has an American version appeared in the title of an anime episode, etc, and the episode's title has no American version, the characters' names in such title should be kept Japanese.
  • The usage of name has to be uniform.

I hop all editors of all DC/CC related articles should take note of this: especially the third. It is not very sightly to see Jimmy Kudo in one place and Shinichi Kudo in another. --Samuel Curtis-- TALK 08:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

  • 1.)I Can't agree. Americans don't rule world.
  • 3.)Yes, lets move to original names (english may be displayed below)

(Edit made by an anon)

Well, since the English names are also used in editions in Canada and the UK... WhisperToMe 21:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Movie 11 Naming

Movie 11 has been named [2]. The name of the movie in kanji is 紺碧の棺, with the 棺 ateyomi'd Jolly Roger. Can anyone make a romaji of this? Thanks! --Samuel Curtis-- TALK 15:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unbalanced article

Way too much info on the anime, and absolutely nothing on the manga that originated it (not even some basic info about how many volumes there currently are, and so on). It's a pity since the manga is really great. Is there no one here that has read the manga and could write about it? Raystorm 17:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name Change

I don't know why this article was disambig'd with (manga). I have posted a question to the mover's talk asking for a rationale for this move, but I wonder if this move is necessary. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 18:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New policy on Fair Use on Horizon

Please read every word on WP:AN#Important_notice_regarding_fair_use_that_all_administrators_should_see. Before a fixed policy on fair use images has been adopted, it is not wise to put on any more anime screencaps. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 16:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal: Categorizing DC/CC Movies

I wonder, given the bulk of uncategorized articles in the CC category are the movie articles, should be categorize the movies also, since they fall into there?

-- also, the movie article need cleanup. Either too much cruft or too short. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 19:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Picture

I think the picture for this article can be better and should include about every character in the series. So, I'm changing it.--Kid1412 02:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikibreak till end of April

I've be having a Wikibreak till the end of April due to pressures surrounding PhD admissions. I would possibly still be editing but at a lower rate.

May all editors note: Please consider verifiability when writing CC-related articles, esp when it deal with non-content-related material. This is the reason why the CC article, given its length, is still having the "Start" grading. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 14:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fate of the Anime Ep Articles

I decided I can't leave Wikipedia; I ended my Wikibreak 2 days ago.

I clarified about the Notability problems around articles that is made for individual articles of anime; the answer is that they are not notable unless proven otherwise. (See WT:Anime#Clarification_of_Notability_of_Individual_Episodes_of_Anime). Thus, I see most articles in would be considered non-notable and would likely to be deleted.

I would like to expand the current List of Case Closed episodes in the way of List of Fullmetal Alchemist episodes in which every episode would came with a short synopsis (OK, due to DC being a mystery series I don't expect the short length of synopsis as in the FMA list) and have a small picture, and the ultimate goal is the removal of individual ep articles-- came to think the ep articles here are even more detailed than some more well-known DC fansites, one can see we have a lot to cut.

But since I don't own any articles, I need input. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 11:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I am the person who converted most of the list to the form it currently is in. I would suggest that you try converting say maybe the first 10-20 of them into that format (making sure to save a backup on your computer of any articles you de-reference/delete) and then ask people then. I am personally open to the idea, although I just don't have the time or the patience to do it. KumoriKage 07:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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