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[edit] Finish Carpenter
In the United States, a finish carpenter is generally one who puts the finishing carpentry touches on a building, such as hanging and fitting doors, base and chair moldings, etc. In contrast, a carpenter who builds cabinets is a cabinetmaker. This is true, but more often than not they are the same people. Ghettogirlie92 14:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Move the article
This article should be moved to carpentry. We don't keep linguistics under linguist and this is no different. The difference between the profession and the discipline is one that should be made only in a dictionary. In an encyclopedia the information is always found under the discipline.
Peter Isotalo 19:35, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with this ancient and unfollowed-up proposal. I think it helps clarify the purpose of the article as well. However, it might require significant editing (I dunno, haven't read the article fully yet). Will put up a move tag to promote discussion. Erk|Talk -- I like traffic lights -- 08:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Roofer
Where I come from, a roofer is someone who puts the roof cladding on (the tiles, tin, etc.), not the person who puts the roof framing up. This latter is the roof carpenter. Sam Wilson 23:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)There is a big difference, but at hte same time there is not a huge difference. The roof carpenter puts up the framing and the roofer puts the shingles up. they both are carpenters in one way or another.
[edit] Requested move
Carpenter → Carpentry — A carpenter is a person who performs carpentry. This article does not focus mainly on the people doing the job, it focuses on the job they do. Therefore, why is it under Carpenter, adding the extra, unnecessary level of the professional to the profession? We should just be talking about the art itself, with perhaps a subsection devoted to carpenters specifically. Erk|Talk -- I like traffic lights -- 08:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Joiners
The description of Joiner as an obsolete term is US-centric and ignores the historical significance of the distinction, which is worth preserving. A joiner was historically a woodworker who had an additional skill over carpenters, that of making "joined" frames or panels. There is still a distinction today in that joiners work at benches in workshops with planed timber, carpenters work on site with unsquared timber. User:Andy Dingley 17:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- Disagree - joiner is current usage outside the US. Addhoc 20:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Isn't that my point? It's currently described on this page as obsolete. That description is US-centric. I have no idea how accurate that is in the US, but it's a current term in Europe. It's also important in the histroy of the development of furniture-making to make the distinction clear. If we had a "History of Furniture" page, then it should even include 'arkwright', which is truly obsolete, but still historically interesting.User:Andy Dingley Andy Dingley 20:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
